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Golden Eagle attempts to take child

To: Eve Belisle <>
Subject: Golden Eagle attempts to take child
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:50:46 +1100
Thanks for that Eve. Glad they 'fessed up. I was getting a bit confused by the 
different methods that were used to explain the clip, which ranged from a 
trained raptor being used on a dummy, or on a real child, CGI fiddling, through 
to it being a portent for the survival of the world in the Mayan calendar 
apocalypse, with the  eagle being a manifestation of Quetzalcoatl.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford

On 20/12/2012, at 7:12, Eve Belisle <> wrote:

> It has been confirmed today, students from a 3D animation school :
> http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/montreal-school-admits-baby-snatching-eagle-video-is-a-hoax-1.1085355
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Eve Bélisle
> 
> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
> To: Eve Belisle <>; Carl Clifford 
> <> 
> Cc: Birding Aus <> 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 3:07:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Golden Eagle attempts to take child
> 
> It is possible that this isn't a hoax.
> 
> There is evidence from the 2 million year old fossil of a small South
> African child (Australopithecus africanus) that it was killed by a large
> bird of prey about the same size as our Wedge-tailed eagle (Berger, L.R.
> and  Mcgraw, W.S.{2007}. Further evidence for eagle predation of, and
> feeding damage on, the Taung child. South African Journal of Science,
> vol.103, n.11-12:496-498).
> 
> I wouldn't at all be surprised at an eagle having a go at a child. After all
> what's the difference between a toddler and a well-grown lamb?  Being human
> doesn't preclude one being prey.
> 
> Too well do I remember that baby Azaria Chamberlain being snatched by a
> dingo was considered a hoax as well.  All the time my semi-traditional
> Aboriginal relatives were telling me that they knew that dingoes would take
> infants, evidence that I handed on to then criminologist, Dr. Paul Wilson,
> who was researching the issue.
> 
> 
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> 1/7 Songlark Street,
> Bakewell, NT 0832
> 043 8650 835
> 
> PhD candidate, SCU
> Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
> Nominated for the Condé Nast international ecotourism award, 2004 by the
> renowned American website, Earthfoot.
> Wildlife Adviser, BBC¹s ŒDeadly 60¹
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19/12/12 11:04 PM, "Eve Belisle" <> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> Several aspects are wrong with this video, the first one being that the
> > ground has been covered in snow for at least a week here in Montreal. The
> > second thing is that this eagle is not a golden, the white patches on the
> > wings does not correspond to any stage of a young golden eagle plumage. It 
> > has
> > been suggested that it could be a Steppe Eagle or an hybrid, common in
> > falconry. The child is probably a doll, I think it's a well staged hoax!
> 
> Eve
> > Bélisle
> Montréal, Canada
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2012-12-19, at 06:48, Carl
> > Clifford <> wrote:
> 
> > It is certainly a bit of a
> > curates egg as far as videos go, which is why I qualified with "seems
> > genuine". There are parts which look kosher and parts with an aura of 
> > shonk. I
> > guess the only way to know is for someone to do a proper forensic rip down 
> > on
> > the original of the clip. It is the sort of clip which brings many "experts"
> > out of the woodwork.
> >
> > Carl Clifford
> >
> > On 19/12/2012, at 22:00, Wendy
> > Cayless <> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Seems it is a fake
> >>
> > http://wtvr.com/2012/12/19/viral-fake-out-golden-eagle-snatches-kid-is-cgi/
> >>
> >
> >> Wendy
> >> http://twitter.com/WendyJoy
> >> http://wjcsydney.wordpress.com
> >>
> > http://kiva.org/invitedby/wendy2641
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Carl Clifford
> > <>
> >> To: Birding-Aus Aus <>
> >
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Golden
> > Eagle attempts to take child
> >>
> >> Dear B-A,
> >>
> >> Interesting footage of a
> > Golden Eagle attempting to take a toddler in a park in Montreal, Quebec. It
> > seems to be genuine.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI
> >>
> >>
> > Cheers,
> >>
> >> Carl Clifford
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