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Golden Eagle attempts to take child

To: Denise Goodfellow <>
Subject: Golden Eagle attempts to take child
From: Tim Jones <>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:37:29 +1100
The eagle looks too big. Plenty of shonk in this...

Sent from my iPhone

On 20/12/2012, at 7:56 AM, "Denise Goodfellow" <> 
wrote:

> It is possible that this isn't a hoax.
> 
> There is evidence from the 2 million year old fossil of a small South
> African child (Australopithecus africanus) that it was killed by a large
> bird of prey about the same size as our Wedge-tailed eagle (Berger, L.R.
> and  Mcgraw, W.S.{2007}. Further evidence for eagle predation of, and
> feeding damage on, the Taung child. South African Journal of Science,
> vol.103, n.11-12:496-498).
> 
> I wouldn't at all be surprised at an eagle having a go at a child. After all
> what's the difference between a toddler and a well-grown lamb?  Being human
> doesn't preclude one being prey.
> 
> Too well do I remember that baby Azaria Chamberlain being snatched by a
> dingo was considered a hoax as well.  All the time my semi-traditional
> Aboriginal relatives were telling me that they knew that dingoes would take
> infants, evidence that I handed on to then criminologist, Dr. Paul Wilson,
> who was researching the issue.
> 
> 
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> 1/7 Songlark Street,
> Bakewell, NT 0832
> 043 8650 835
> 
> PhD candidate, SCU
> Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
> Nominated for the Condé Nast international ecotourism award, 2004 by the
> renowned American website, Earthfoot.
> Wildlife Adviser, BBC¹s ŒDeadly 60¹
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19/12/12 11:04 PM, "Eve Belisle" <> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
> Several aspects are wrong with this video, the first one being that the
>> ground has been covered in snow for at least a week here in Montreal. The
>> second thing is that this eagle is not a golden, the white patches on the
>> wings does not correspond to any stage of a young golden eagle plumage. It 
>> has
>> been suggested that it could be a Steppe Eagle or an hybrid, common in
>> falconry. The child is probably a doll, I think it's a well staged hoax!
> 
> Eve
>> Bélisle
> Montréal, Canada
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2012-12-19, at 06:48, Carl
>> Clifford <> wrote:
> 
>> It is certainly a bit of a
>> curates egg as far as videos go, which is why I qualified with "seems
>> genuine". There are parts which look kosher and parts with an aura of shonk. 
>> I
>> guess the only way to know is for someone to do a proper forensic rip down on
>> the original of the clip. It is the sort of clip which brings many "experts"
>> out of the woodwork.
>> 
>> Carl Clifford
>> 
>> On 19/12/2012, at 22:00, Wendy
>> Cayless <> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Seems it is a fake
>> http://wtvr.com/2012/12/19/viral-fake-out-golden-eagle-snatches-kid-is-cgi/
>> 
>>> Wendy
>>> http://twitter.com/WendyJoy
>>> http://wjcsydney.wordpress.com
>> http://kiva.org/invitedby/wendy2641
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Carl Clifford
>> <>
>>> To: Birding-Aus Aus <>
>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 6:43 PM
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Golden
>> Eagle attempts to take child
>>> 
>>> Dear B-A,
>>> 
>>> Interesting footage of a
>> Golden Eagle attempting to take a toddler in a park in Montreal, Quebec. It
>> seems to be genuine.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI
>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Carl Clifford
>>> =
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