All,
See here: *NOTE:* this is a hoax. It was a class project by Normand
Archambault, Loïc Mireault and Félix Marquis-Poulin, students at Centre
NAD, in the production simulation workshop class of the Bachelors degree in
3D Animation and Digital Design [read
more<http://blogue.centrenad.com/2012/12/19/centre-nad-reassures-montrealers-no-danger-of-being-snatched-by-a-royal-eagle/?lang=en#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed>,
link kindly shared by RyanClarkPhotos <https://twitter.com/Ryanclarkphotos>
].
And here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/grrlscientist/2012/dec/19/1?CMP=twt_gu
Cheers and i agree with your comments above,
Bob
On 19 December 2012 14:03, Nikolas Haass <> wrote:
> Hi Denise,
>
> It is pretty clear that it is a hoax - see previous mails. Further to the
> already mentioned points (including that the originators of the clip
> already explained how they faked it) has anyone had a look at the jizz of
> the bird? It is supposed to be a Golden Eagle, but the jizz doesn't look
> like that of an aquiline eagle at all. Almost looks like that the students
> 'borrowed' features from different genera to create their movie!
>
> Thanks for sending through the interesting Berger & McGraw paper on
> Stephanoaetus-type eagles and an Australopithecus africanus child.
> Admittedly, I didn't have the chance to read the paper in detail but it is
> clear that they compared skull damage marks to those caused
> by Stephanoaetus-type eagles (see also Gilbert et al. 2009 American Journal
> of Physical Anthropology). Maybe due to my superficial reading I missed an
> important point: Can they really rule out that the eagle KILLED the
> Australopithecus or did it just SCAVENGE on a dead one?
> We have to be very careful with overinterpreting these kinds of data.
> Similar stories already brought Lammergeier (Bearded Vulture) to the brink
> of extinction. And there are certainly many other examples...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nikolas
>
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
>
> Sydney, NSW
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Denise Goodfellow <>
> To: Eve Belisle <>; Carl Clifford <
> >
> Cc: Birding Aus <>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Golden Eagle attempts to take child
>
> It is possible that this isn't a hoax.
>
> There is evidence from the 2 million year old fossil of a small South
> African child (Australopithecus africanus) that it was killed by a large
> bird of prey about the same size as our Wedge-tailed eagle (Berger, L.R.
> and Mcgraw, W.S.{2007}. Further evidence for eagle predation of, and
> feeding damage on, the Taung child. South African Journal of Science,
> vol.103, n.11-12:496-498).
>
> I wouldn't at all be surprised at an eagle having a go at a child. After
> all
> what's the difference between a toddler and a well-grown lamb? Being human
> doesn't preclude one being prey.
>
> Too well do I remember that baby Azaria Chamberlain being snatched by a
> dingo was considered a hoax as well. All the time my semi-traditional
> Aboriginal relatives were telling me that they knew that dingoes would take
> infants, evidence that I handed on to then criminologist, Dr. Paul Wilson,
> who was researching the issue.
>
>
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> 1/7 Songlark Street,
> Bakewell, NT 0832
> 043 8650 835
>
> PhD candidate, SCU
> Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
> Nominated for the Condé Nast international ecotourism award, 2004 by the
> renowned American website, Earthfoot.
> Wildlife Adviser, BBC¹s ŒDeadly 60¹
>
>
>
>
> On 19/12/12 11:04 PM, "Eve Belisle" <> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> Several aspects are wrong with this video, the first one being that the
> > ground has been covered in snow for at least a week here in Montreal. The
> > second thing is that this eagle is not a golden, the white patches on the
> > wings does not correspond to any stage of a young golden eagle plumage.
> It has
> > been suggested that it could be a Steppe Eagle or an hybrid, common in
> > falconry. The child is probably a doll, I think it's a well staged hoax!
>
> Eve
> > Bélisle
> Montréal, Canada
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2012-12-19, at 06:48, Carl
> > Clifford <> wrote:
>
> > It is certainly a bit of a
> > curates egg as far as videos go, which is why I qualified with "seems
> > genuine". There are parts which look kosher and parts with an aura of
> shonk. I
> > guess the only way to know is for someone to do a proper forensic rip
> down on
> > the original of the clip. It is the sort of clip which brings many
> "experts"
> > out of the woodwork.
> >
> > Carl Clifford
> >
> > On 19/12/2012, at 22:00, Wendy
> > Cayless <> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Seems it is a fake
> >>
> >
> http://wtvr.com/2012/12/19/viral-fake-out-golden-eagle-snatches-kid-is-cgi/
> >>
> >
> >> Wendy
> >> http://twitter.com/WendyJoy
> >> http://wjcsydney.wordpress.com
> >>
> > http://kiva.org/invitedby/wendy2641
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Carl Clifford
> > <>
> >> To: Birding-Aus Aus <>
> >
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 6:43 PM
> >> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Golden
> > Eagle attempts to take child
> >>
> >> Dear B-A,
> >>
> >> Interesting footage of a
> > Golden Eagle attempting to take a toddler in a park in Montreal, Quebec.
> It
> > seems to be genuine.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI
> >>
> >>
> > Cheers,
> >>
> >> Carl Clifford
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