Hi all,
Just for those interested, the new version contains around about 60 new
sites, and approximately 240 sites in total.
As the original T & T has led me to some wonderful places I am pleased that
it has been reprinted and will be available to a new generation of
Australian birders and international visitors. My thanks to David and Alan.
cheers
Jen
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Tony Russel <> wrote:
> Rob, I didn't pick any holes in it . I did pick up on one of the things
> John
> said, but that was his comment , not mine. All I really said was that there
> couldn't be too many new places to include - a function of geography, not a
> problem with the book. I imagine the book is good for someone who didn't
> have the first issue but I don't think I need to get the new one myself.
> ( Or was it my Hm! that you didn't like?) There you go, I've deleted it.
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of robert
> morris
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 3:53 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
>
>
> Carl, Tony et al.
> It is always easy to pick holes and criticise - especially when you've used
> the old T&T and seen everything, or know about and have access to all these
> other resources. I'd be interested to know if you've actually even seen a
> copy? As you wrote Tony 'If one used the first edition exhaustively and
> went to every location recommended, as I did myself' - this in my mind is a
> ringing endorsement for the book for many others who are looking for places
> to go to look for specific species!
> Paul (Walbridge) and I noted a few 'issues' with the Southport Pelagic
> write
> up - but it was still good it got a write up and it was better than the
> original 2 or 3 lines Richard and Sarah put together! There are always
> going to be a few errors in such books - and elements of books like this go
> out of date as soon as they are published.
> But on the other side of the equation (a more balanced view perhaps) - the
> book makes a positive contribution to promoting birding and ornithology in
> Australia and there will (hopefully) be plenty of budding young
> ornithologists and foreign visitors who use this, as others used the first
> T&T in the past, to develop a passion for birding.
> There's a lot of good stuff in this book and I think that almost writing it
> off because of one or two errors or omissions is a little premature. I have
> the old version and have been to most the places in it. There are only a
> handful of endemics I haven't seen. But I have bought the new version too -
> it is interesting to look at what has and what hasn't changed, and the new
> sites there are around for some species etc. etc.
> I guess it depends on your outlook!
> Rob Morris
>
>
>
>
>
> > From:
> > To: ;
> > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:56:46 +1030
> > CC: ;
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
> >
> > If one used the first edition exhaustively and went to every location
> > recommended, as I did myself with other SA birders, there can't be too
> many
> > new places for the new edition to cover. I sold my original once it was
> out
> > of print and had served its purpose.
> >
> > I'm with Carl on this. And if it's got errors like the Yumbarra one
> where
> > you should go through the gate at the end of Foggo's Rd before turning
> left
> > ( then travel 2.1km along the fence before turning right up a poorly
> marked
> > narrow track etc).
> >
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > On Behalf Of Carl
> Clifford
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:05 AM
> > To: John Tongue
> > Cc: Birding-Aus; Robert Inglis
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
> >
> > I am glad I did not rush out and buy T&T. I am always wary of books
> > with "Complete" in their titles anyway. I think I will stick with
> > Birdata, Eremaea and B-A's archives if I wish to discover where a
> > particular species may be found or what species are at a particular
> > location. Much more up to date.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Carl Clifford
> >
> >
> > On 23/03/2011, at 9:43 AM, John Tongue wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > We found a few minor discrepancies in the info for Yumbarra
> > Conservation Reserve in SA. Nothing too major, but it could be
> > confusing when the notes say to turn left at the Dog fence before
> > travelling a few km to the gate through the fence, when the gate is
> > actually at the point Foggo's Road reaches the dog fence. Apart from
> > that, just a few name discrepancies. in this listing.
> >
> > HAven't really tried out many of the others - though I did note Bob's
> > point about the unusual way Tasmania is sometimes handled!! (Didn't
> > want to appear too testy, or mention Brisbane Commonwealth Games :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John Tongue
> > Ulverstone, Tas.
> >
> > On 22/03/2011, at 7:14 PM, Robert Inglis wrote:
> >
> > > An interesting makeover but Tasmanians must be a little confused.
> > > There seems to be some doubt about whether Tasmania is part of
> > > Australia or, in fact, a separate country.
> > > I thought we worked this sort of thing out a long time ago.
> > >
> > > Check out the Bird Finder Guide for the Striated Pardalote and
> > > Eastern Spinebill entries.
> > > Or Horsfield's Bronze-Cuckoo and Shining Bronze-Cuckoo.
> > > Or Masked Owl and Eastern Barn Owl.
> > > Or Kelp Gull and Silver Gull.
> > >
> > > There's probably more but this little idiosyncrasy shouldn't prevent
> > > anyone finding those, and other, species.
> > >
> > > Bob Inglis Sandstone Point
> > > Qld
> > >
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