Rob, I didn't pick any holes in it . I did pick up on one of the things John
said, but that was his comment , not mine. All I really said was that there
couldn't be too many new places to include - a function of geography, not a
problem with the book. I imagine the book is good for someone who didn't
have the first issue but I don't think I need to get the new one myself.
( Or was it my Hm! that you didn't like?) There you go, I've deleted it.
Tony
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From:
On Behalf Of robert morris
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 3:53 PM
To:
Subject: Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
Carl, Tony et al.
It is always easy to pick holes and criticise - especially when you've used
the old T&T and seen everything, or know about and have access to all these
other resources. I'd be interested to know if you've actually even seen a
copy? As you wrote Tony 'If one used the first edition exhaustively and
went to every location recommended, as I did myself' - this in my mind is a
ringing endorsement for the book for many others who are looking for places
to go to look for specific species!
Paul (Walbridge) and I noted a few 'issues' with the Southport Pelagic write
up - but it was still good it got a write up and it was better than the
original 2 or 3 lines Richard and Sarah put together! There are always
going to be a few errors in such books - and elements of books like this go
out of date as soon as they are published.
But on the other side of the equation (a more balanced view perhaps) - the
book makes a positive contribution to promoting birding and ornithology in
Australia and there will (hopefully) be plenty of budding young
ornithologists and foreign visitors who use this, as others used the first
T&T in the past, to develop a passion for birding.
There's a lot of good stuff in this book and I think that almost writing it
off because of one or two errors or omissions is a little premature. I have
the old version and have been to most the places in it. There are only a
handful of endemics I haven't seen. But I have bought the new version too -
it is interesting to look at what has and what hasn't changed, and the new
sites there are around for some species etc. etc.
I guess it depends on your outlook!
Rob Morris
> From:
> To: ;
> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 11:56:46 +1030
> CC: ;
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
>
> If one used the first edition exhaustively and went to every location
> recommended, as I did myself with other SA birders, there can't be too
many
> new places for the new edition to cover. I sold my original once it was
out
> of print and had served its purpose.
>
> I'm with Carl on this. And if it's got errors like the Yumbarra one where
> you should go through the gate at the end of Foggo's Rd before turning
left
> ( then travel 2.1km along the fence before turning right up a poorly
marked
> narrow track etc).
>
>
> Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Carl
Clifford
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:05 AM
> To: John Tongue
> Cc: Birding-Aus; Robert Inglis
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Thomas & Thomas 2nd Edition.
>
> I am glad I did not rush out and buy T&T. I am always wary of books
> with "Complete" in their titles anyway. I think I will stick with
> Birdata, Eremaea and B-A's archives if I wish to discover where a
> particular species may be found or what species are at a particular
> location. Much more up to date.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 23/03/2011, at 9:43 AM, John Tongue wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> We found a few minor discrepancies in the info for Yumbarra
> Conservation Reserve in SA. Nothing too major, but it could be
> confusing when the notes say to turn left at the Dog fence before
> travelling a few km to the gate through the fence, when the gate is
> actually at the point Foggo's Road reaches the dog fence. Apart from
> that, just a few name discrepancies. in this listing.
>
> HAven't really tried out many of the others - though I did note Bob's
> point about the unusual way Tasmania is sometimes handled!! (Didn't
> want to appear too testy, or mention Brisbane Commonwealth Games :)
>
> Cheers,
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
>
> On 22/03/2011, at 7:14 PM, Robert Inglis wrote:
>
> > An interesting makeover but Tasmanians must be a little confused.
> > There seems to be some doubt about whether Tasmania is part of
> > Australia or, in fact, a separate country.
> > I thought we worked this sort of thing out a long time ago.
> >
> > Check out the Bird Finder Guide for the Striated Pardalote and
> > Eastern Spinebill entries.
> > Or Horsfield's Bronze-Cuckoo and Shining Bronze-Cuckoo.
> > Or Masked Owl and Eastern Barn Owl.
> > Or Kelp Gull and Silver Gull.
> >
> > There's probably more but this little idiosyncrasy shouldn't prevent
> > anyone finding those, and other, species.
> >
> > Bob Inglis Sandstone Point
> > Qld
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