Good on you, Carl. You and your Mum typify the giving behaviour of
Australians. It tends to be the poorer who donate the most.
Denise
on 13/1/11 9:19 AM, Carl Clifford at wrote:
> Denise,
>
> A very good point. My mother and I have donated the equivalent of one
> week's pension each to the flood appeals. We can get by without it and
> there are thousands of people up there who need it much more.
>
> I urge all birding-ausers to dig deep and donate as much as they can
> to this cause. And remember, it is only chance that a disaster like
> this does not occur where you live and you too have to be reliant on
> the generosity of strangers.
>
> Dig Deep,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 13/01/2011, at 10:04 AM, Denise Goodfellow wrote:
>
>
>
> On the subject of the Queensland floods, may I suggest that birders,
> instead
> of chasing that next new bird for Australia, donate the money to their
> fellow human beings. If Michael and I, on our limited income, can
> afford to
> donate over $100 a month (to all causes), then I'm sure those who can
> afford
> to go chasing birds in remote places could come up with a decent sum.
> Denise L Goodfellow
>
>
> on 13/1/11 7:57 AM, Dave Torr at wrote:
>
>> Wildlife conservation is in many cases these days also a matter for
>> private
>> individuals etc - not just governments. I know many dedicated
>> individuals
>> who do their bit for conservation with little or no government help.
>>
>> I tend to agree that the presence of a rarity on Christmas I (or
>> wherever)
>> does little directly to promote conservation - however the more
>> birders
>> visit such places (whether for rarities or the endemics or both) the
>> more
>> the local see that there is a value in preserving the eco system and
>> the
>> more likely they are to pressure for this to occur. This is not just
>> an
>> Aussie phenomenon of course - the local people (and government) need
>> to see
>> there is a value in "nature" (because people pay to come and see it
>> and
>> provide employment etc) and that perhaps this is a better way to go
>> than
>> chopping everything down.
>>
>> On 13 January 2011 08:56, Julian B <> wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd hate to fall out with a fellow birder on so trivial a matter
>>> but I
>>> still
>>> cannot see, or understand, the connection between the two [to me]
>>> separate
>>> threads.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chasing after rarities, especially new records, is in the realms of
>>> TWITCHING; wildlife conservation [be it birds, reptiles or a
>>> elongated
>>> creepy-crawly] is a Government initiative. The two rarely coincide.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or are we to understand that if the likes of Mike Carter confirm the
>>> presence of a Lesser-spotted Oompahloompah on the Cocos Keeling
>>> Islands the
>>> Australian Government suddenly drops all other business in hand to
>>> assure
>>> the wellbeing of the creature - [and I have a lot of admiration for
>>> both
>>> Mike's ability and willingness to drop everything at a moment's
>>> notice and
>>> shoot off to "find" or verify a rare sighting]?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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