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Effects of call playback on birds

To: Alistair McKeough <>, Peter Shute <>
Subject: Effects of call playback on birds
From: Peter Ewin <>
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:31:38 +1000
Alistair's question is an interesting one. I was trying to rack my brain to 
recall if there are any species that I have not seen without using playback. 
The one that comes to mind is Sooty Owl but I have certainly heard it without 
using a tape, but I have seen it a number of times while doing call playback 
surveys (they usually respond really well). Of the 650+ species I have seen in 
Australia, this is the only 1 I can definitely not say I have not used a tape 
(though I also have at least one species - Little Kingfisher - that I have only 
seen in the hand while banding it). I do not use tapes to "tick" a new species 
but as I think I have said before on this topic, I have no problem with using 
them as part of systematic surveys to determine distribution/habitat use (as 
long as the survey effort is not too high at the one location) and do so 
regularly (like at the moment with Redthroat surveys).
Saying this I regularly "pish" birds in which I would have thought is a 
different reaction from most birds (curiosity rather than territorial defence) 
and find this usually works pretty well (NZ is great as well) though some 
species, such as Grasswrens will often just bolt as soon as they realise they 
have been tricked.
Cheers,
Peter> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:25:43 +1000> From: 
> To: > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] 
Effects of call playback on birds> CC: > > I'd be 
interested to know how reliant people are on it. I know I've seen> birds I 
wouldn't have without using tapes (eg Lewin's Rail).> > Anyone with 500 species 
that's never used tapes? How about 600? 700?> > > > 2008/9/16 Peter Shute 
<>> > > If birds stop responding to playback then that's true. 
But if they stop> > responding to real calls from their own species then it 
should affect> > their ability to maintain territory, breed, etc, shouldn't it. 
No idea> > if that happens.> >> > I think the main thing is to make sure that 
birds aren't exposed to it> > to much, as they can obviously survive the 
occasional playback. The> > problem is knowing how much they've already been 
exposed to.> >> > Peter Shute> >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: 
> > > 
 On Behalf Of Tony Russell> > > Sent: 
Tuesday, 16 September 2008 12:26 PM> > > To: 'Richard Hoyer'; 
> > > Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Effects of call 
playback on birds> >> > > 3) The other observation that some bird species seem 
to> > > habituate to the playback (and thus fail to respond to it) is> > > no 
different to them habituating to any other sound or> > > visible intrusion that 
comes their way, ie, vehicular sound> > > and motion. Surely this habituation 
must save energy rather> > > than expend it. It's often only when a vehicle 
stops rather> > > than passing by as usual that birds take fright and fly for> 
> > cover. Again, annoying for the hopeful observer, but hardly> > > any more 
stressful for the birds than if some normal predator> > > approaches.> > >> > > 
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