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RFI Barbary Dove

To: "Chris Sanderson" <>
Subject: RFI Barbary Dove
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:42:10 +1100
It does raise (and I guess this is Tania's point) the issue of when a
population reaches that magical "tickable" status. Some ferals are clearly
in that state but others - such as Barbary Dove and Helmeted Guineafowl
(which was also discussed here recently) have both "tickable" and
"non-tickable" populations. Guess you have to get local knowledge and/or
monitor the population for 10 years.....

On 08/02/2008, Chris Sanderson <> wrote:
>
> Hi Nikolas,
>
> While I can appreciate your view on this (I've always been somewhat
> uncomfortable calling Feral Pigeons Rock Doves), I'm curious to know what
> you think they are then?  Are you suggesting they warrant a different
> species name from the Rock Dove?  Or are you just saying because they are
> a
> feral they don't count?  Similarly, Barbary Doves may not be a different
> species from African Collared Dove, but if the birds are there, they are
> something, whether Barbary or African Collared.  While some people differ,
> the general twitching rule in Australia seems to be to tick introductions
> they must be wild birds in a self sustaining population, meaning they've
> been breeding in the wild for about 10 years.
>
> Just interested in your views on the matter.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
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