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Subject: Re: Nature recordists group
From: ""
Date: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:39 pm ((PST))
So am I!

John V.  Moore Nature Recordings
www.johnvmoorenaturerecordings.com


In a message dated 1/16/2012 11:39:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
 writes:




So am I

Jim Morgan

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Wil  Hershberger <
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wrote:

> I am with you on this Martyn.
>
> Wil  Hershberger
> Nature Images and Sounds, LLC
> Hedgesville,  WV
> The Songs of Insects
> My  Blog
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>  On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
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> > Let me  apologize for my knee jerk response to Bill Rankin's departure.=

I
>  should NOT have used the words I did... I feel deeply sad in Bill's
>  departure.
> > I am dead set however in filtering out postings like  the example shown=
.
> For those who do not approve of my methods, there  are other places to
form
> groups....
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> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
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> >> I will not let this group turn into anything else other  than what it
> was set up to be...
> >> When someone like  Bill Rankin leaves because of postings like this
> then this is when i  will step in and filter out the crap...
> >> We have lost some  amazing recordists here only to be replaced by
> artists that I consider  pretentious.
> >> I'll get a lot of stick for this but I do not  care, If any more of
this
> crap enters the group I will put it on  moderation and those people can
piss
> off and form their own  group..
> >>
> >>> Yes I think I was one of the  first 20 or so nature recordists to
> subscribe
> >>> to  the group. I have seen a lot of different and interesting people
> come  and go.
> >>>
> >>> However when you let  pretentious bull shit artists take over and
> dominate the group with  stuff like
> >>> this :
> >>>
>  >>
> >>> Louie,
> >>> "...the dynamically  sublime confronts the subject with the sheer pow=
e
r
> of
>  >>> nature rather than its magnitude. Experiencing nature's power  as
> fearful
> >>>> without actually falling prey to  fear, the subject discovers its
> >>> superiority to nature =E0  its freedom. That is, the subject is recal=
led
> to
> >>>  its supersensible >destiny as a moral being precisely by being
exposed
> to
> >>> its sensory vulnerability. The  determination of the self by exterior
> forces
> >>>  gives way to its >determination from within, heteronomy to  autonomy=
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> With
> >>> the dynamically sublime, in  particular, philosophy seeks to master
> terror =E0
> >>>  the menace that >Derrida locates at the limits of philosophical
>  mastery." T
> >>> This academic text explains my understanding  of sublime in Kant. It=

is
> not
> >>> to embelish nature  this is the beautiful not the sublime.To discover
> our
>  >>> own >freedom, to make the way from heteronomy to autonomy and
finaly to
> >>> "master terror", I think the way is in nature  because it is in
sublime
> as
> >>> Derrida  >explains.
> >>> regards,
> >>> Jos=C8
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> >> I no longer feel that this sort of  crap has any relevance to wildlife
> sound
> >> recording  but then again my views are probably politically incorrect.=

I
> >>  come from the crusty old "Walter Knapp" school of wildlife recording.
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> >>  Martyn
> >> *************************************
> >>  Martyn Stewart
> >> www.naturesound.org
> >>  www.soundofcritters.com
> >>
> >> Redmond WA
>  >> 425-898-0462
> >>
> >>  47.65420118705451
> >> -121.98158740997314
>  >>
> >> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
>  >> **************************************
> >> Listen to the  Birds and the Bees at
> >> _http://naturesound.libsyn.org/_ (http://naturesound.libsyn.org/)
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> > "While a  picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand  pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
Krause.
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> >  Yahoo! Groups Links
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> "While a picture is worth  a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray  Schafer via Bernie Krause=
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> Yahoo! Groups  Links
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