I am too.
I apologize for my selfish decision to participate in such divergent dialog=
. Sorry, Bill Rankin.
John Hartog
rockscallop.org
--- In Jim Morgan <> wrote:
>
> So am I
>
> Jim Morgan
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Wil Hershberger <
> > wrote:
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> > I am with you on this Martyn.
> >
> > Wil Hershberger
> > Nature Images and Sounds, LLC
> > Hedgesville, WV
> > The Songs of Insects
> > My Blog
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
> >
> > > Let me apologize for my knee jerk response to Bill Rankin's departure=
. I
> > should NOT have used the words I did... I feel deeply sad in Bill's
> > departure.
> > > I am dead set however in filtering out postings like the example show=
n.
> > For those who do not approve of my methods, there are other places to f=
orm
> > groups....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
> > >
> > >> I will not let this group turn into anything else other than what it
> > was set up to be...
> > >> When someone like Bill Rankin leaves because of postings like this
> > then this is when i will step in and filter out the crap...
> > >> We have lost some amazing recordists here only to be replaced by
> > artists that I consider pretentious.
> > >> I'll get a lot of stick for this but I do not care, If any more of t=
his
> > crap enters the group I will put it on moderation and those people can =
piss
> > off and form their own group..
> > >>
> > >>> Yes I think I was one of the first 20 or so nature recordists to
> > subscribe
> > >>> to the group. I have seen a lot of different and interesting people
> > come and go.
> > >>>
> > >>> However when you let pretentious bull shit artists take over and
> > dominate the group with stuff like
> > >>> this :
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>> Louie,
> > >>> "...the dynamically sublime confronts the subject with the sheer po=
wer
> > of
> > >>> nature rather than its magnitude. Experiencing nature's power as
> > fearful
> > >>>> without actually falling prey to fear, the subject discovers its
> > >>> superiority to nature =E0 its freedom. That is, the subject is reca=
lled
> > to
> > >>> its supersensible >destiny as a moral being precisely by being expo=
sed
> > to
> > >>> its sensory vulnerability. The determination of the self by exterio=
r
> > forces
> > >>> gives way to its >determination from within, heteronomy to autonomy=
.
> > With
> > >>> the dynamically sublime, in particular, philosophy seeks to master
> > terror =E0
> > >>> the menace that >Derrida locates at the limits of philosophical
> > mastery." T
> > >>> This academic text explains my understanding of sublime in Kant. It=
is
> > not
> > >>> to embelish nature this is the beautiful not the sublime.To discove=
r
> > our
> > >>> own >freedom, to make the way from heteronomy to autonomy and final=
y to
> > >>> "master terror", I think the way is in nature because it is in subl=
ime
> > as
> > >>> Derrida >explains.
> > >>> regards,
> > >>> Jos=C8
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I no longer feel that this sort of crap has any relevance to wildlif=
e
> > sound
> > >> recording but then again my views are probably politically incorrec=
t. I
> > >> come from the crusty old "Walter Knapp" school of wildlife recording=
.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Martyn
> > >> *************************************
> > >> Martyn Stewart
> > >> www.naturesound.org
> > >> www.soundofcritters.com
> > >>
> > >> Redmond WA
> > >> 425-898-0462
> > >>
> > >> 47.65420118705451
> > >> -121.98158740997314
> > >>
> > >> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> > >> **************************************
> > >> Listen to the Birds and the Bees at
> > >> http://naturesound.libsyn.org/
> > >> ------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kra=
use.
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=
e.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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