re: this thread, i am sure most of us have seen/heard this attenborough cli=
p, i am curious what category this bird's anthropogenic vocal recording wou=
ld fall into?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/520900/amazing_lyre_bird_mimics_everything/
- Dug
On Jan 12, 2012, at 4:44 PM, freitojos wrote:
> Jonh,
> I think it is not a good thing to think all antropogenic sound is bad. Th=
e bad antropogenic sound is noise. We can't avoid antropogenic sounds and t=
he naturescapes are antropogenic visualy here in Portugal, absolutely impos=
sible to avoid it here in south europe. So it must exist good antropogenic =
sound, I know it exists for shure in my memory. So in my recording I am not=
going to avoid good antropogenic sound, I am going to avoid noise or bad a=
ntropogenic sound. Recording soudscapes must be pedagogic in the sense that=
it can teach how to avoid make noise and make only good antropogenic sound=
.
>
> regards,
> Jos=E9
>
> --- In "hartogj" <> wro=
te:
> >
> > Hi Robin,
> > I wrote:
> > "The word "nature" might however have a specific meaning in the context=
of this group."
> >
> > You responded:
> > "The variety of responses in this thread demonstrates otherwise."
> >
> > The responses have brought up some interesting ideas, but the small han=
dful of group members who have participated in this discussion so far, incl=
uding myself, cannot realistically pretend to speak for the greater (2031) =
membership of this group - therefore little or no consensus has been demons=
trated.
> >
> > I still think nature sound recording and natural soundscape recording i=
n the context of this group as well as a general nature sound audience rema=
ins in the domain of nature rather than culture - even if as you and a few =
others point out that culture and nature are indeed inseparable.
> >
> > As an artist, as well as an advocate of natural ecosystem conservation =
and restoration, I am inclined to keep "nature sound" and "natural soundsca=
pe" within a definition that on the most part discourages inclusion of anth=
ropogenic noise whenever possible. Why? - because I believe a recording of =
nature taken without inclusion of noticeable anthropogenic noise can promot=
e conservation to a general public more than can a recording extended to in=
clude periods anthropogenic noise.
> >
> > I believe the natural rhythms and voices in a recording, aside from ant=
hropogenic, can promote consciousnesses in appreciation for natural ecosyst=
ems better than a recording with anthropogenic sounds included. I also beli=
eve that a nature recording without anthropogenic noise has a higher value =
to a nature sound consumer audience.
> >
> > John Hartog
> > rockscallop.org
> >
>
>
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