Jonh,
Yes, traditionaly here in rural places without motorized noises,the human v=
oice,the shepard calls and field songs of work, womans and mens have they w=
orking songs during harvest by hand, the water in the mill and the stones i=
n the mills for saw work or corn or olive oil, the catle "cloches", the bel=
ls in the churches, the soud of walking man, child and womans, the noise of=
animal traction traillers, the hand working sounds, axes and sissors etc..=
., each one is difrent and much more, they are almost lost today, they were=
lovely sounds,in my childwood, and welcome because they were not very loud=
or persistent sounds and in harmony with the landscape wich is worked by t=
he man by hand not with machines. I can't think about these landscapes with=
out some of these sounds, they have been also the landscape for centuries, =
we can't discard them here in some rural =E1reas in Portugal.For example th=
e etnography makes recordins at demand but expontaneous sounds or songs by =
field workers are other thing of corse and they also make the sound and lan=
dscape. I think these sounds are good antrophogenic sounds.
regards,
Jos=E9
--- In "hartogj" <> wrote=
:
>
> Hi Jose,
> At least around here, in North America, many native animal species avoid =
human presence. The greater the human presence the greater the impact on th=
e habitat or ecosystem. Roads create swaths of lower animal diversity and p=
opulation size. Any anthropogenic sounds associated with a human presence =
in an area that is considered to be "natural" I might consider "bad" for th=
at natural ecosystem, and definitely "bad" for type of nature recording tha=
t I do. Of course transportation sounds from air and highway traffic are th=
e worst. Through these sounds of our loud motors we extend our presence dee=
ply into even the most remote corners of our world.
>
> Can you give some examples of the "good" anthropogenic sounds you are ref=
erring to?
>
> John Hartog
> rockscallop.org
>
>
>
> --- In "freitojos" <josefreitas81@> wro=
te:
> >
> > Jonh,
> > I think it is not a good thing to think all antropogenic sound is bad. =
The bad antropogenic sound is noise. We can't avoid antropogenic sounds and=
the naturescapes are antropogenic visualy here in Portugal, absolutely imp=
ossible to avoid it here in south europe. So it must exist good antropogeni=
c sound, I know it exists for shure in my memory. So in my recording I am n=
ot going to avoid good antropogenic sound, I am going to avoid noise or bad=
antropogenic sound. Recording soudscapes must be pedagogic in the sense th=
at it can teach how to avoid make noise and make only good antropogenic sou=
nd.
> >
> > regards,
> > Jos=E9
>
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