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Re: New Soundscapes & realism

Subject: Re: New Soundscapes & realism
From: "Eric" eleonardson
Date: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:40 pm ((PST))
Hi John,

I'm not sure which "good" anthropogenic sounds Jos=E9 had in mind, but my l=
ist would include speech, music, sonic art, and laughter, both intentional =
and unintentional.

I seem to recall Steven Feld told us, in 1993, a nature environments record=
 label would have released his field recordings from the rain forests of Pa=
pua New Giunea, only  if it hadn't been "ruined" by the sounds of the indig=
enous Bosavi people. He described their songs as more of conversation with =
everything living in the forest. I'd imagine his Voices of the Rainforest C=
D is an inspiration for many in the Nature Recordists Group.

All the best,
Eric

--- In  "hartogj" <> wrote=
:
>
> Hi Jose,
> At least around here, in North America, many native animal species avoid =
human presence. The greater the human presence the greater the impact on th=
e habitat or ecosystem. Roads create swaths of lower animal diversity and p=
opulation size.  Any anthropogenic sounds associated with a human presence =
in an area that is considered to be "natural" I might consider "bad" for th=
at natural ecosystem, and definitely "bad" for type of nature recording tha=
t I do. Of course transportation sounds from air and highway traffic are th=
e worst. Through these sounds of our loud motors we extend our presence dee=
ply into even the most remote corners of our world.
>
> Can you give some examples of the "good" anthropogenic sounds you are ref=
erring to?
>
> John Hartog
> rockscallop.org
>
>
>
> --- In  "freitojos" <josefreitas81@> wro=
te:
> >
> > Jonh,
> > I think it is not a good thing to think all antropogenic sound is bad. =
The bad antropogenic sound is noise. We can't avoid antropogenic sounds and=
 the naturescapes are antropogenic visualy here in Portugal, absolutely imp=
ossible to avoid it here in south europe. So it must exist good antropogeni=
c sound, I know it exists for shure in my memory. So in my recording I am n=
ot going to avoid good antropogenic sound, I am going to avoid noise or bad=
 antropogenic sound. Recording soudscapes must be pedagogic in the sense th=
at it can teach how to avoid make noise and make only good antropogenic sou=
nd.
> >
> >  regards,
> > Jos=E9
>








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