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Subject: Re: Best stereo solution for nature recording while backpacking thro
From: "hartogj" hartogj
Date: Fri Jul 1, 2011 7:26 pm ((PDT))
Hi Dan,

The wind noise with the Telinga Clip-Ons sounds more sever than the LS-10 i=
n the Rycote.  But since the Rycote also makes significant wind noise, what=
 this comparison demonstrates is the challenge even a slight breeze can pos=
e when recording in very quiet locations.

John Hartog
http://rockscallop.org/

--- In  Dan Dugan <> wrote:
>
> > If looking for best packpacking equipment, may I remind about these
> > http://www.telinga.com/ls10.htm
> > Picture two from the top.
> > And they don't sound "really really really real" - they sound like
> > two very good omnis for Plug In Power and have the lowest self noise
> > level of all such mic's.
>
> I've recently done four overnight sessions, two in Joshua Tree and two in=
 Yosemite, using an "ultralight" backpacking recording system of four Telin=
ga clip-ons and two Olympus LS-10 recorders.
>
> So far as weight and recording quality go, the sessions were great.
>
> There are practical considerations; the two LS-10s drifted apart a lot, m=
ore than a second in an hour, much more that the MD recorders that I used t=
o do this trick with. I have a technique for synchronizing front and rear p=
airs in post, using a party clicker for head and tail clicks that give me b=
oth front-rear and recording rate sync. Of course on a couple of takes I fo=
rgot the tail click and will have to fake it.
>
> I had an awful scare at the end of a nice dawn chorus at 49 Palms Oasis i=
n Joshua Tree National Park. I rolled over in my sleeping bag to hit the st=
op button and there was a static spark from my finger to the recorder. The =
LS-10 said "memory error" and also "insert memory card." I was sure I'd blo=
wn the front channels file. The recorder wouldn't shut down. I fiddled with=
 various buttons and then it rebooted. I was very encouraged to see a messa=
ge "recovering file"! Olympus saved my crashed dawn chorus file without dam=
age, bless their hearts. Only the metadata was wrong, the file creation and=
 modification times were the same. The next desert location I put a cluster=
 of tent stakes in the sand and poured some water on it. I touched that bef=
ore touching my recorder and there was no problem.
>
> On Black Eagle Mine Road in Joshua Tree I recorded in perhaps the quietes=
t spot that I've ever experienced. When the wind died down in the small hou=
rs of the morning there was just nothing. There, listening with a lot of ga=
in, I noticed something odd. A light breeze on the Telinga Clip-Ons made a =
rustling sound, distinct from the booming sound of wind on a mic. After I h=
ad struck my system after dawn chorus I heard a canyon wren, and put an LS-=
10 with a Rykote long-hair windscreen on a rock for a few minutes. Though i=
t wasn't the same mics, I think that that recording might serve to compare =
the effect of the different windscreens. The Rykote fur is long and silky a=
nd the windscreens supplied with the Clip-Ons are made of stiff wiry fibers=
. Listen to the two files at:
>
> http://www.dandugan.com/downloads/Nature_Sounds_Recordings/JOTR_wind_test=
s/
>
> The file NS110602_04.26.06_JOTR_BER_Telinga_COM-LS10.mp3 is the Telinga C=
lip-ons, and the file
>
> NS110602_06.39.00_JOTR_BER_LS10_mics_hp_rykote.mp3 is the LS-10 mics with=
 Rykote windscreen in a similar situation (low cut filter on).
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Dan
>








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