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Subject: Re: Best stereo solution for nature recording while backpacking thro
From: "vickipowys" vpowys
Date: Fri Jul 1, 2011 2:34 pm ((PDT))
Dan,

I listened to your comparison of windshields for the Klas clip on
mics: the Rycote is preferable but neither is satisfactory.

For an ultra-lightweight rig the clip-ons are certainly useful, I
tried them clipped to my cap, but they are so sensitive that even
gentle breathing will pick up.  Depends on background though, if you
can get away with it.

cheers,

Vicki



On 02/07/2011, at 4:45 AM, Dan Dugan wrote:

>> If looking for best packpacking equipment, may I remind about these
>> http://www.telinga.com/ls10.htm
>> Picture two from the top.
>> And they don't sound "really really really real" - they sound like
>> two very good omnis for Plug In Power and have the lowest self noise
>> level of all such mic's.
>
> I've recently done four overnight sessions, two in Joshua Tree and
> two in Yosemite, using an "ultralight" backpacking recording system
> of four Telinga clip-ons and two Olympus LS-10 recorders.
>
> So far as weight and recording quality go, the sessions were great.
>
> There are practical considerations; the two LS-10s drifted apart a
> lot, more than a second in an hour, much more that the MD recorders
> that I used to do this trick with. I have a technique for
> synchronizing front and rear pairs in post, using a party clicker
> for head and tail clicks that give me both front-rear and recording
> rate sync. Of course on a couple of takes I forgot the tail click
> and will have to fake it.
>
> I had an awful scare at the end of a nice dawn chorus at 49 Palms
> Oasis in Joshua Tree National Park. I rolled over in my sleeping
> bag to hit the stop button and there was a static spark from my
> finger to the recorder. The LS-10 said "memory error" and also
> "insert memory card." I was sure I'd blown the front channels file.
> The recorder wouldn't shut down. I fiddled with various buttons and
> then it rebooted. I was very encouraged to see a message
> "recovering file"! Olympus saved my crashed dawn chorus file
> without damage, bless their hearts. Only the metadata was wrong,
> the file creation and modification times were the same. The next
> desert location I put a cluster of tent stakes in the sand and
> poured some water on it. I touched that before touching my recorder
> and there was no problem.
>
> On Black Eagle Mine Road in Joshua Tree I recorded in perhaps the
> quietest spot that I've ever experienced. When the wind died down
> in the small hours of the morning there was just nothing. There,
> listening with a lot of gain, I noticed something odd. A light
> breeze on the Telinga Clip-Ons made a rustling sound, distinct from
> the booming sound of wind on a mic. After I had struck my system
> after dawn chorus I heard a canyon wren, and put an LS-10 with a
> Rykote long-hair windscreen on a rock for a few minutes. Though it
> wasn't the same mics, I think that that recording might serve to
> compare the effect of the different windscreens. The Rykote fur is
> long and silky and the windscreens supplied with the Clip-Ons are
> made of stiff wiry fibers. Listen to the two files at:
>
> http://www.dandugan.com/downloads/Nature_Sounds_Recordings/
> JOTR_wind_tests/
>
> The file NS110602_04.26.06_JOTR_BER_Telinga_COM-LS10.mp3 is the
> Telinga Clip-ons, and the file
>
> NS110602_06.39.00_JOTR_BER_LS10_mics_hp_rykote.mp3 is the LS-10
> mics with Rykote windscreen in a similar situation (low cut filter
> on).
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Dan
>
>






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