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Subject: Re: Best stereo solution for nature recording while backpacking thro
From: "Mike Rooke" picnet2
Date: Fri Jul 1, 2011 8:57 am ((PDT))
A boundary mic such as the muriemic vs a soundfield setup is like comparing=
 a binaural head to a ms mic the two are very different. Curt and Rob have =
been using boundary rigs for quite a while with very good results. Vikki P =
has also used the cheap
omni capsules in a sass like array made from various materials. Such record=
ing rigs
may be built for less than 50 dollars. If the interest is stereo two or eve=
n four
omnis placed coincident and processed as a dipole mic will produce a very g=
ood stereo image. A couple of the same omni's in an aluminium tube with wat=
erproof tape can be slung under a hedge in the rain - the technology vsvs h=
igh snr is now available for peanuts as are the recorders.

-M




--- In  Bernie Krause <> wrote:
>
> Don't be embarrassed, umashankar. There are lots of claims out there, =

> both technical and philosophical. Actually, Klas has a potential
> solution with his MurieMic, that when finished will allow really,
> really fine recordings with equipment that weighs way less than half a =

> kilo (less than one pound) and would allow many hours of recording. A =

> great compromise.
>
> Bernie
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:36 AM, umashankar wrote:
>
> > dear bernie
> >
> > i do not run the oomagamma site and seriously, i am embarassed by
> > some of the things its says. and brahma is not a commercial
> > proposition. true i sold six of them this year, but each one was
> > just a little bit different, and hand made and inexpensive. (and i
> > will provide all the info needed by anyone who wants to make it
> > themselves.)
> >
> > umashankar
> >
> > i have published my poems. you can read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.=
com/umashankar
> >
> > From: Bernie Krause <>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 6:41 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Best stereo solution for
> >> nature recording while backpacking through Sierras?
> >>
> >> Of course. Any of these recordings can be reduced to more functional
> >> playback models. The response was to the "really, really real" claim.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:07 AM, umashankar wrote:
> >>
> >>> well, you could also process the output for binaural, or 5.1 or even
> >>> plain stereo, with the option of aiming the mikes in post.
> >>>
> >>> umashankar
> >>>
> >>> i have published my poems. you can read (or buy) at http://stores.lul=
u.com/umashankar
> >>>
> >>> From: Bernie Krause <>
> >>>> To: 
> >>>> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 6:35 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Best stereo solution for
> >>>> nature recording while backpacking through Sierras?
> >>>>
> >>>> It does. But one has to have a very sophisticated playback system =

> >>>> to
> >>>> realize the result. Multiple fine speakers, from sub-woofers to
> >>>> others
> >>>> in many positions, all carefully calibrated, and a really really
> >>>> decent environment (acousti-voiced room)  in which to assemble the
> >>>> system. Then there is the computer software developed at York
> >>>> University (Tony Myatt) needed to drive the playback. Perhaps light
> >>>> on
> >>>> one side of the equation (field recording). Quite complex on the
> >>>> other.
> >>>>
> >>>> Bernie Krause
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jun 30, 2011, at 11:46 PM, hartogj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>> From the context they are clearly trying to say,"it sounds really
> >>>>> really real." :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Hartog
> >>>>> www.rockscallop.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In  "Avocet" <brini@>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm intrigued by this ultra-portable recording setup.  It looks
> >>>>>>> ideal for recording while backpacking.
> >>>>>>> http://www.oomagamma.com/brahmakitstatic.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "... true three dimensional ..."? Eh?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> David Brinicombe
> >>>>>> North Devon, UK
> >>>>>> Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >>>>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >>>>> Krause.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Wild Sanctuary
> >>>> POB 536
> >>>> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >>>> 707-996-6677
> >>>> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
> >>>> SKYPE: biophony
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >>>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >>>> Krause.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >>> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >>> Krause.
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Wild Sanctuary
> >> POB 536
> >> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> >> 707-996-6677
> >> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> >> 
> >> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
> >> SKYPE: biophony
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> >> Krause.
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> > Krause.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-996-6677
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> 
> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
> SKYPE: biophony
>








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