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Re: ME66/MKH616 with omni mic

Subject: Re: ME66/MKH616 with omni mic
From: "Mitch Hill" wa1ykn
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2011 8:00 am ((PST))
Hi Mark,

At 05:03 AM 2/8/2011 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi all, a couple of questions, Shotgun mic in the works hopefully before=
=C3=82
>spring
>arrives.
>
>
>I have looked at both the Sen ME66/K6 and the Sen MKH416. There is quite a=

>price
>difference in these mics. I want to go with quality, thats really
>important to
>me. Is it worth the extra 5-$600 to purchase the MKH416 over the ME66 to g=
et
>what I am looking for?
>
>The second question. Has anyone used one of these mics with an omni mic
>(say an
>AT4022 or MKH20)? I guess the idea right now is to 'focus' in on one
>species or
>bird/amphibian during a morning chorus but also be able to effectively get=
 a
>good broad ambient reocording at the same time with an AT4022 or MKH20.


I have never tried a MKH416 but do use a pair of ME66/K6 (stereo), a
ME67/K6 for handheld bird call hunting, and four of the ME64/K6 mostly for=

ambient sound recording in a 4 or 6 microphone array.  I have staid away
from the MKH416 for three reasons, price and need of it for Phantom power,=

and the fact that I have two R0DE NTG3 mics which are comparable to the
MKH416...

I have two Microphone arrays set up specifically for wildlife recording,
the first is 6 of the ME series mics, the pair of ME66/K6 being the center=

two, and the rest are the ME64 cardioid mics filing in the sides and back.=

I often substitute the pair of R0de NTG3 for the second two mics in this
array increasing the forward sensitivity...

The NTG3 are quality RF type mics similar to the MKH416, a little lower in=

sensitivity however about the same angle of acceptance to the ME66 pair
however I find, living in the New England, that the NTG3 have a cold
weather problem in that when temps drop down close to freezing, the NTG3
mics quit working... As long as temps stay above 35 degF (+2 degC) the NTG3=

with a slightly higher preamp gain setting work very well with the ME66/K6=

mics in an array.

My second array is 5 mics, a ME67 center usually flanked by the pair of
NTG3 at an angle of 72 degrees relative to the center mic and two ME64 mics=

facing rearward at a 144 deg angle relative to the center ME67 mic.  This
array is an experimental setup and has surprised me at how well it works...

When in use, either array feeds Sound Devices linked "302" mixer/preamps
which in turn feed a Marantz PMD661 recorder...

Samples of what this setup produces can be heard here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/G5hD0gQS/Coyotes_and_other_mamals.html

http://www.4shared.com/dir/bLd7xvqv/Owls.html

As to Tim's comment about finding the ME66 mic to be brittle sounding, I
have not experienced that at all, I will say that the R0DE NTG3 mics seem
to have a stronger low frequency response than the ME66 mics however the
need for this "heavy" low frequency response in avian wildlife sound
recording is no advantage. I typically keep the low pass filtering in the
preamps set to 150 Hz to block very low frequency sounds and booming...

Hope this helps...

--

Thanks,
Mitch & Shadow...

http://www.4shared.com/dir/UTASxktL/wildlife.html

Shadow's area: http://www.4shared.com/dir/ecfWjyZb/Shadow.html









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