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Re: Noiselevel on Sony MZ-RH1

Subject: Re: Noiselevel on Sony MZ-RH1
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Tue Jan 9, 2007 10:29 pm ((PST))
That suggests to me that the list of suspects is narrowed down to the
unbalanced 2-xlr->stereo 3.5mm cable and the RH1/its settings. Can
you borrow another recorder like an MD and another adapter cable? If
the source of the noise is the RH1,  TLM103 -> Art2 -> another
adapter cable ->  mic input/MD should confirm it and if so, send it
to Sony Repair.  Record the results to a sound file? It shouldn't be
noisy. Rob D.

>TLM103 to Art2 to mic input (red) on RH1=3Dnoisy (mostly high
>frequency noise as far I can
>tell)
>
>TLM103 to Art2 to mic pre on Motu 828mk2 and out line level on the
>back into line/
>optical on RH1 (white)=3DLow noise
>
>The Motu looks like this:
>http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/828.Its preamps are
>decent but not the best.
>
>*S*
>
>
>
>--- In  Rob Danielson <> wrote:
>>
>>  At 7:24 PM +0000 1/9/07, sveinung_nygaard wrote:
>>  >The RH1 is on batteri, the Art2 is running off battery, the 828 is
>>  >on mains. The miccable is
>>  >good, I use it all the time. The mic is fine too. I am running a
>>  >longish unbalanced cable
>>  >from the outputs of the 828, so that might cause some noise. The
>>  >funny things is when I
>>  >used the preamp
>>
>>  What preamp? The art II is a phantom power supply. The output from it
>>  goes to a mic level input.
>>
>>
>>  >on the 828 with all the same cables attacheds it was like I was able t=
o
>>  >breath again (almost no noise). And, this noise I have problem with
>>  >is the same as the one
>>  >I get when plugging a Sony ECM-MS907 into the RZ1 but not having
>>  >turned the mic on.
>>  >This is what suggests to me that the preamp has some noise in it. I
>>  >also get the same
>>  >noise plugging an ordinary cable into the preamp input.
>>
>>  There are line and mic inputs on the Hi-MD. The Art II output goes to
>>  the (red jack?) mic input on the Hi-MD. Rob D.
>>
>>  >
>>  >*S*
>>  >
>>  >--- In  "stoatwizard" <linnet@> wrote=
:
>>  >>
>>  >>  This sounds like there is a fault. Neumann quote the sensitivity at=
 a
>>  >>  decent 23mV/Pa and a self-noise of 7dBA, so the RH1 preamp noise co=
sts
>>  >>  you about 2dB self-noise.
>>  >>
>>  >>  When I had one on loan to test the noise floor of the RH1 driven by=
 a
>>  >>  180R resistive load had a slight hint of hum, which I suspect to be=
ing
>>  >>  due to the OLED display which has a 100Hz refresh rate.
>>  >>
>>  >>  One question - are you battery powering the phantom unit (ie there
>>  >>  isn't an earth loop with the phantom powering), since the RH! is no=
t a
>>  >>  balanced input, so the phantom unit and mics should be fully floati=
ng
>>  >>  if possible?
>>  >>
>>  >>  --- In  "sveinung_nygaard"
>>  >>  <sveinung.s.nygaard@> wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  > I might be mistaken, but it seems to me that the mic pre on the S=
ony
>>  >>  MZ-RH1 is very noise. If
>>  >>  > anybody cold lead me on the right track I would be very thankful.=
 I
>>  >>  have one of these
>>  >>  > recorders, and I tried comparing it to the preamp on my MOTU 828 =
mk2,
>>  >>  and the mic pre on
>>  >>  > the sony recorder has a lot of high frequency noice on it. I used=
 a
>>  >>  Neuman TLM103 with
>>  >>  > phantom from a ART2 box. It was all done indoor to check the
>>  >>  noiselevel (very crudely!).  But
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >"Microphones are not ears,
>>  >Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>  >A listening room is not nature."
>>  >Klas Strandberg
>>  >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>>
>>  --
>>  Rob Danielson
>>  Peck School of the Arts
>>  University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>>  http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/
>>
>
>
>
>
>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


--
Rob Danielson
Peck School of the Arts
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/





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