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Re: MKH vs Telinga EM23 noise

Subject: Re: MKH vs Telinga EM23 noise
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Fri Sep 1, 2006 7:56 am (PDT)
Scott--
Assuming L=3DMid and R=3DSide:

1) A mkh30 does have slightly more noise than a mkh 40, but not this
much usually.

There are three factors to account for: (a) the two mics, (b) the
rolls (c) the recorder/settings. Do things like swap around the
inputs on the Rolls. Power the Rolls and mics differently if you can.
Try the Rolls with other mics if you can. Make sure all the
settings/inputs are right on the recorder.

2) There is unusual low-end weighting/extra low end emphasis on the EM-32's=
.

Its early, but your tests so far suggest to me that something is not
right with the recorder or a setting/setting on it. Swap your
gear/settings and connections around and see if you can isolate the
source of the problem.  Rob D.



At 11:55 AM +0000 9/1/06, scottsherk27 wrote:
>Hi Rob,
>Thanks for giving this a listen.  I am running MKH's through Rolls
>and into mic in of Sony RH10.  The EM23's are going directly into mic
>in using only PIP.  I put new batteries into the Rolls immediately
>before running the test.
>
>I have uploaded an un-normalized or decoded file of the MKH 40/30 and
>also the un-normalized file of the EM23's both recorded at the 28
>level.  They are at the bottom of the group on the page at
>
>http://tinyurl.com/hx9nq
>
>One thing that confuses me is that I thought the MKH's were more
>sensative than the EM23's being rated at 25mV/Pa's as opposed to 10-
>11.5mV/Pa for the EM23.  The un-normalized files argue against this.
>
>Thanks,
>Scott
>
>
>--- In  Rob Danielson <>
>wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Scott- We'll, something odd is going on. Is just the 40/30 pair
>>  going through through the Rolls and the em-23 running on PIP or are
>>  both running through the PB224? Sure the batteries are fresh? If
>both
>>  pairs are going through the Rolls, can you upload the M-S 40-30 rec
>>  level "28" files un-decoded and un-normalized?   Rob D.
>>
>>  At 11:07 PM +0000 8/31/06, scottsherk27 wrote:
>>  >I recently began experimenting with a Sennheiser MKH 30-40 M/S rig.
>>  >I've been running this through the Rolls PB224 and then into a Sony
>>  >RH10 Hi-MD.  I seem to be experiencing too much high-end noise,
>>  >especially compared to what I'm used to with my pair of Telinga
>>  >EM23's.  I've posted some crude test recording on my site.  I`ve
>>  >recorded the same clock with both the EM23's and the MKH's with
>gain
>>  >of 22 and 28 on the RH10.  I only normalized the files.  I would
>>  >appreciate an assessment of this high-end noise.  Here is the page:
>>  >
>>  >http://tinyurl.com/hx9nq
>>  >
>>  >Thanks,
>  > >Scott
>  > >





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