Rob, am curious what software you're using to look at the
frequencies, are you using a sonogram or a RTA plugin of some kind?
In that recording, I would argue that you could easily roll off below
80k, even sharply, and not miss a thing, getting rid of all the mic
bumps. That one might not have been rolled off, or might already have
been rolled off gently. But I agree that it's pretty hard to handhold
for very quiet sounds, and those bumps aren't probably cables
bumping, but just hand adjustments on the handle that are being
transmitted through the cables.
But with that tree and it's location, to set up a stand would have
been a royal pain, so for me, a less than 100% clean recording is
better than not having got it.
But I'm curious how you're analyzing the sounds, would love to do the
same and have a 'look' inside them.
On Aug 23, 2006, at 7:02 AM, Rob Danielson wrote:
> At 7:21 PM -0400 8/22/06, Walter Knapp wrote:
> >Posted by: "Tim Nielsen"
> >
> >> But what I've found with a single zepp MS setup, hand-holding, is
> >> that I'm much more free to experiment with mic placement. I can
> walk
> >> around, moving the mics, listening to the response. Poke it up
> close
> >> to something, aim it all around, and hear what I can hear. With
> stand
> >> mounted stereo pairs, this just seems like it'd be much more
> >> cumbersome. With the MS rigs, I'm just so much more mobile and
> >> flexible.
> >
> >About the same as I do. Even small variations in direction or
> location
> >sometimes make a big difference. My tall rig I usually also do some
> >listening before setting it up. And one big use of it is to set it
> when
> >I go to bed camping in the truck. I normally set it close enough I
> can
> >reach out and rotate it if I picked the wrong direction. Kind of
> luxury
> >recording with the recorder right beside me I don't even have to
> get out
> >of bed. Though no mobility.
> >me weight. The Telinga is also nice and light, though the dish is
> >always a problem stuffing through the brush. The large diaphragm
> setup
> >I'm working on is going to be a problem for weight (2 Rode
> NT2000's). I
> >don't think I'll hand hold it much.
> >
> >Walt
> >
>
> I think it also depends on what one's
> applications for the recording are. Ambience in
> quiet locations can present a whole new order of
> limitations. For example, I noticed that in the
> rustling leaves section of Tim's Schoeps M-S rig
> example that I looped (~3:55 in), there's a
> fairly steady patter of >35Hz "bumps" which sound
> like the mic cable movement in shock mount he's
> using. Some folks use shelf filtering and "roll
> off" this part of the spectrum, but for full
> fidelity playback on speakers or headphones, such
> bumps restrict one's options. Jeremiah's comment,
> "There's no way around using a stand/tripod if
> you need to record very quiet sounds." is
> consistent with my experience. Rob D.
>
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