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Re: Trouble wiring PIP shure mics

Subject: Re: Trouble wiring PIP shure mics
From: D & m <>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:06:33 +0800
Hi Rob
Been away for the weekend.
Had another close look at your diagram.
Let me see if I got this right. Wiring through a 4 pin connector (the
1st link) pins 1,3,4 are connected which are the pins for ground and
power, which the ground wire of the cable is soldered to, leaving pin 2
which is the sound wire which the coloured wire on the cable is soldered to=
.
If thats the case I maybe seeing the light. The music man I referred to
earlier had the following. Pins 2,3,4 were connected which is the power
(black) and sound (red) and the sound wire of cable was soldered to
this. This leaves pin 1 the ground wire which was soldered to the ground
wire of the cable.
Will try later tonight. Will let you now how things go.
David

Rob Danielson wrote:

> Hi David-
> I'm still not sure how you've got it wired currently. The wiring for
> all of the capsules is the same.  If I wanted to keep the TA4F's in
> tact and use matching TA4M's, this is how I'd wire it:
>
> http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/shure183p-i-pAdaptercable.jpg
> <http://www.uwm.edu/%7Etype/Mic%20Preamps/shure183p-i-pAdaptercable.jpg>
>
> The direct wiring to miniplug s still here:
> http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M's.jpg
> <http://www.uwm.edu/%7Etype/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M%27s.jpg=
>
>
> Rob D.
>
>   =3D =3D =3D =3D
>
> At 4:43 PM +0800 8/25/05, D & m wrote:
> >Rob
> >sorry for the crude diagram. The wiring for the mics
> >
> >WL 93   G   0    B
> >                     R
> >
> >
> >WL 83 & 183   G  B  0
> >                               R
> >were G=3D ground
> >           B=3D black
> >           R=3D red
> >           0 =3D spare pin
> >
> >Remember I have solder connecting pins 2,3&4 on the TA4 -F so I could
> >use all mics.
> >Referring to another question I am using only minidisk
> >David
> >
> >Rob Danielson wrote:
> >
> >>  Makes sense to confirm that everything works before cutting the
> >>  cables.  If I understand correctly, its normal for the voltage to
> >>  drop because the capsules add load. I can't picture the current
> >>  wiring you're trying with the TA4M/F's. Could you make a wiring
> >>  diagram for us?  Rob D.
> >>
> >>  =3D =3D =3D
> >>
> >>  At 5:58 PM +0800 8/24/05, D & m wrote:
> >>  >Hi Thanks for those replied
> >>  >I have testing mainly with the WL 93's and there is a noticeable
> drop in
> >>  >voltage but I just tried it with  the WL 83 or 183s and this drop
> >>  >voltage didn't happen.( Why would that be happening).  Even so
> still no
> >>  >sound coming through any of the  mics tried. I have thought about
> >>  >clipping the 4 pin connector off but I haven't been game to bit the
> >>  >bullet yet. If it is not working with the connector, wouldn't it
> also be
> >>  >the case if wiring straight to  a mini jack. The female adapters
> are not
> >>  >switch graft that Rob mentioned in his instructions but that
> would make
> >>  >any difference.
> >>  >
> >>  >It must work others have done it. I'm buffled why its not working
> for me.
> >>  >David
> >>  >
> >>  >Rob Danielson wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >>  Thanks for the tip. I recorded something suspicous, short legged,
> >>  >>  quick even steps and hoofy already. May be the wire chewin
> culprit?
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  I noticed that Shure just raised the prices on the C122 and
> WL183's,
> >>  >>  the later almost double. Too bad. Might be some dealers ou there
> >>  >>  selling them at the old price? Rob D.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>    =3D =3D =3D =3D
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  At 3:51 PM +0000 8/23/05, Rich Peet wrote:
> >>  >>  >I have confirmed by building Robs diagram for the WL183 and
> it works
> >>  >>  fine.
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >If you want or need to use it with a battery box that is not har=
d
> >>  >>  >either.  It does add the weight and cost of the box, battery
> >>  >>  >connector, two line capacitors, one resister on the battery and =
a
> >>  >>  >capacitor on the battery as well. If you want a range of
> values for
> >>  >>  >building one I can draw something and e-mail you off list.
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >Rich
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >PS for Rob. Someone unknown idiot released Wild Pig into Crawfor=
d
> >>  >>  >County, WI. There is now a self sustaining population of about
> >>  150 and
> >>  >>  >they likely are on their way to Lafarge in the next few years
> if not
> >>  >>  >controlled by then. If you want to record them you should try
> before
> >>  >>  >the DNR and others manage to kill them.
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >--- In  Rob Danielson
> >>  <> wrote:
> >>  >>  >>  Hi David--
> >>  >>  >>  Is there a chance you'll use the WL's just on a minidisc or
> >>  other PIP
> >>  >>  >>  recorder? If so, the way I prefer to wire them is to cut off
> >>  the four
> >>  >>  >>  pin connectors on the end the c-122 cables and solder both
> cables
> >>  >>  >>  into one stereo 3.5mm miniplug. Cuts down on bulk.chance
> of extra
> >>  >>  >>  interference and costs less. Here are the instructions for
> this:
> >>  >>  >>
> >>  >>  >>
> >>  >>  ><
> >>  >>
> >>=20
> http://www.uwm.edu/~type/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M's.jpg
> <http://www.uwm.edu/%7Etype/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M%27s.jpg=
>
> >>=20
> <http://www.uwm.edu/%7Etype/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M%27s.jpg=
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> >>  >>
> >>=20
> <http://www.uwm.edu/%7Etype/Mic%20Preamps/ShureWR-183WiringNoTA4M%27s.jpg=
>
> >  > >>  >
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  >>  Should work fine on your MZ N1 HiMD recorder. Let me know.
> Rob D.
> >>  >  > >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  "Microphones are not ears,
> >>  Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >>  A listening room is not nature."
> >>  Klas Strandberg
> >>
> >>
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