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Re: Wish to record nature sounds - need advice please

Subject: Re: Wish to record nature sounds - need advice please
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:59:09 -0500
From: "Ryan" <>

> I think the Rode microphone you are referring to is the NT4. 
> Regarding a fluffy cover from rycote, would you suggest that I get 
> a "Softie Windshield System" or a "Full Windshield System"? if I was 
> to buy the rode NT4?

The full system is much more capable than the softie.

> Apparently the NT4 comes with a WS4 twin-head Wind Shield. Would 
> this suffice?
> saw it here: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT4/

The foam covers that mics typically come with are more like pop filters. 
To stop noises from the performer's breath hitting the mic. Strictly 
inside stuff. You need much more outside.

> Is it true that I should get an extra 20ft of cable to distance the 
> microphone from the mini disc?

For my uses 20ft of cable would usually be just to make life 
interesting. I generally record hand held, typically with about 4' of 
cable to my mics. I don't own a NT4, but can see no reason why the cable 
needs to be long. Here's a couple links to most of my main mics, I 
record almost entirely in stereo:
http://frogrecordist.home.mindspring.com/docs/my_mod_sass.html
http://frogrecordist.home.mindspring.com/docs/my_ms_setups.html
I also use a Telinga stereo parabolic in my main kit. Recently updated 
to the latest model. My recorder is a HHb Portadisc.

Note on the M/S page the standard suspension and windscreening. I prefer 
the Sennheiser system to Rycote, more robust. This is the sort of thing 
you will be trying to duplicate with a homemade system.

This system consists of a suspension frame with the mics suspended by 
o-ring links from the frame to clips on the mics. This frame slips into 
and locks on the zeppelin windscreen. This is large mesh plastic lined 
with finer wind stopping fabric. This will handle light breezes. Above 
that you cover the windscreen with a layer of artificial fur. This 
combo, by itself will handle fairly strong breezes. For a final layer I 
slip knit baby socks over the mics themselves. That will get you to 
where the wind is making so much noise in the environment that you will 
generally stop recording.

Note the key is layers of still air formed by material that does not, by 
itself make any new sound from the wind.

Virtually all the equipment on those two pages came off ebay. At very 
significant savings. The exceptions are the SASS housings and machined 
parts.

Note I do also record with mics on stands:
http://wwknapp.home.mindspring.com/tall.tripod.1.jpg
http://wwknapp.home.mindspring.com/tall.tripod.2.jpg

Walt




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