Whew! Thanks, Martyn. I'll put the canes away for a while.
BK
>Don't beat yourself up Bernie, Jesus, you've put a lot of great stuff out
>there, you are allowed some glitches, but only one more!!!!
>
>Martyn
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>Martyn Stewart
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wild Sanctuary
>Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:18 AM
>To:
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] Digital stereo synth
>
>
>Mono it is. Couldn't be more so. Indelible. Etched in the digital
>media forever. Honest.
>Mono =E1 Mono. No kidding. Nothing on earth has yet been discovered to
>extract even the tiniest amt of data from what should have been a
>robust and convincing Side channel. A sad day for nature recordists -
>especially this one. Embarrassing for me, who even badly sighted
>should have heard (if I had been listening critically) the
>differences but didn't catch it for a whole month on site in an
>effort to save precious batteries by avoiding playback.
>
>Luckily, I've been to various parts of Africa many times and have
>lots of good stuff, well recorded and archived. It's just that one
>glitch...
>
>BK
>
>>I guess the only thing to do is to fly back to Africa and record mono
>>again, this time with a figure-8 mic to get the side information
>>you're missing. :P
>>
>>Can you upload a WAV sample (1 - 2 minutes) of what you've got?
>>Include both channels, unless you are 110% sure it's 2 channels of the
>>same mono.
>>
>>
>>
>>--- In Wild Sanctuary <>
>>wrote:
>>> Nada, Ken. What we've got is 2-trk mono. Each year older I get, the
>>> nightmares about this month-long session get worse. Last night, there
>>> was a polar bear in my bedroom.
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>> >If I understand correctly, due to a connection problem, all you ende=
d
>>> >up with is a mono recording?
>>> >
>>> >First are you 100% sure that you have a mono track? If you just one
>>> >channel recorded, the other blank, then yeah it's mono. If you got
>>> >two tracks, are they 100% identical? EG if you invert one channel an=
d
>>> >sum the two channels do they cancel out to nothing? If there's a
>>> >little true ambience left, there may be a way to pump up the
>>> >separation.
>>> >
>>> >From all your experiments, if they didn't work, i don't think you
>>> >will find any purely synthetic way of making this one track into
>>> >believable stereo.
>>> >
>>> >Maybe you have a good stereo recording of ambience in the same
>>> >location that could be mixed in to give the "mono" one a little life=
?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >--- In Wild Sanctuary <>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >> Anyone on the list know of a really convincing stereo synthesizer=
?
>>> >> Long ago and far away on a recording trip to Africa, I used a MS
>>> >> pre-amp in the field with which I was unfamiliar. The mics were
>>> >> plugged in wrong (because I don't see very well and lost my glass=
es
>>> >> and wasn't otherwise paying attention) and all I came up with was=
a
>>> >> decent mono track. I've tried a number of systems to create a sen=
se
>>> >> of space (everything from offsetting tracks to the Orban to the
>>> >> Quadraverb system and different combinations of all of them) but =
to
>>> >> no satisfactory end.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"Microphones are not ears,
>>> >Loudspeakers are not birds,
>>> >A listening room is not nature."
>>> >Klas Strandberg
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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>>
>>"Microphones are not ears,
>>Loudspeakers are not birds,
> >A listening room is not nature."
>>Klas Strandberg
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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