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RE: Re: marker pens

Subject: RE: Re: marker pens
From: "Chris Owens" <>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 20:11:29 +0100
Can I take this a stage further?

I have seen that the Epson 2100 can print directly onto specially coated
CDRs.

Has anyone any experience of this causing problems?

Best Wishes,

Chris.
www.chrisowens.co.uk


> -----Original Message-----
> From: evertveldhuis 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:00 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: marker pens
>
>
> Yep Chris,
>
> A sticker is a piece of paper with a self glueing underside.
> Worst case is a label not roundly shaped, not put between the center
> of the hole in the middle of the CDR; that causes a little weight at
> a certain point thus irregular spinning behaviour.
> A complete covering round label (often the ones you can put on the
> CDR with label-software) add far too much weight, and you take the
> risk that the added weight is not added equally balanced (a little of
> center). This is very easily audible during the (more) silent parts.
>
> Avoid any thing you 'stick', put or glue on the upper (and lower!)
> surface of the CDR.
> If you want to be certain the best you can; just don't write anything
> on it, write it on the jewelbox. Second best scenario; write on the
> see thru part where no metal is underneath...
>
> Regards,
> Evert - they sometimes call me paranoid, but it is better to be safe
> than sorry...
>
> --- In  "Chris Owens" <> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can I clarify that sticker means a small label that, such as adress-
> type
> > labels.
> >
> > Does this also apply to "proper" CD labels that cover the whole (or
> most
> > of) the surface.
> >
> > I have used these for a while and not had any problems.
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> >
> > Chris.
> > www.chrisowens.co.uk
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: evertveldhuis 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:21 AM
> > > To: 
> > > Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: marker pens
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In  Vicki Powys <> wrote:
> > > > I've heard that stick-on labels should not be used for
> > > CD-Rs in your
> > > > wildlife sound archive
> > >
> > > Vicki,
> > >
> > > It is true that labelling a CDR with a sticker will cause more
> read
> > > errors, I myself can really hear gaps in the sound caused by only
> > > adding the label (sticker). You will get MUCH more noise, hick
> ups
> > > and stuff. Nowadays I don't use labels anymore.
> > >
> > > > But the latest rumour I've heard is that marker pens
> are NOT OK,
> > > > and that the ink will eventually eat through the plastic.
> > > > Is this true?=20
> > >=20
> > > Coud be, dunno for sure. But I heard stories of commercial audio
> CD's
> > > made in 3rd world countries with paint that was agressive towards
> the
> > > plastic of the CD, it should take years before they have eaten
> > > through the plastic enough to make an audible difference. On the
> > > other hand, CDR's are supposed to last about 10 years if stored
> under
> > > good conditions. I back up my <back up CDR's> every 8 years or so.
> > >
> > > Just to be on the safe side I use well known brands:
> > > I prefer Philips CDR's (when not available I get angry and wait
> till
> > > they are available again, if I am in a hurry and *need* them
> right
> > > away I go for TDK CDR's)
> > >
> > > As a label marker I use the Lumocolor #313, with the 'S' tip,
> made by
> > > the German company Steadtler. These markers pens rule big time,
> they
> > > are waterproof, thus permanently, and the tip is very tiny.
> > >
> > > Regards, Evert
>
>
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