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Subject: Re: marker pens
From: "evertveldhuis" <>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:59:46 -0000
Yep Chris,

A sticker is a piece of paper with a self glueing underside.
Worst case is a label not roundly shaped, not put between the center
of the hole in the middle of the CDR; that causes a little weight at
a certain point thus irregular spinning behaviour.
A complete covering round label (often the ones you can put on the
CDR with label-software) add far too much weight, and you take the
risk that the added weight is not added equally balanced (a little of
center). This is very easily audible during the (more) silent parts.

Avoid any thing you 'stick', put or glue on the upper (and lower!)
surface of the CDR.
If you want to be certain the best you can; just don't write anything
on it, write it on the jewelbox. Second best scenario; write on the
see thru part where no metal is underneath...

Regards,
Evert - they sometimes call me paranoid, but it is better to be safe
than sorry...

--- In  "Chris Owens" <> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can I clarify that sticker means a small label that, such as adress-
type
> labels.
>
> Does this also apply to "proper" CD labels that cover the whole (or
most
> of) the surface.
>
> I have used these for a while and not had any problems.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Chris.
> www.chrisowens.co.uk
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: evertveldhuis 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:21 AM
> > To: 
> > Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: marker pens
> >
> >
> > --- In  Vicki Powys <> wrote:
> > > I've heard that stick-on labels should not be used for
> > CD-Rs in your
> > > wildlife sound archive
> >
> > Vicki,
> >
> > It is true that labelling a CDR with a sticker will cause more
read
> > errors, I myself can really hear gaps in the sound caused by only
> > adding the label (sticker). You will get MUCH more noise, hick
ups
> > and stuff. Nowadays I don't use labels anymore.
> >
> > > But the latest rumour I've heard is that marker pens are NOT OK,
> > > and that the ink will eventually eat through the plastic.=20
> > > Is this true?=20
> >=20
> > Coud be, dunno for sure. But I heard stories of commercial audio
CD's
> > made in 3rd world countries with paint that was agressive towards
the
> > plastic of the CD, it should take years before they have eaten
> > through the plastic enough to make an audible difference. On the
> > other hand, CDR's are supposed to last about 10 years if stored
under
> > good conditions. I back up my <back up CDR's> every 8 years or so.
> >
> > Just to be on the safe side I use well known brands:
> > I prefer Philips CDR's (when not available I get angry and wait
till
> > they are available again, if I am in a hurry and *need* them
right
> > away I go for TDK CDR's)
> >
> > As a label marker I use the Lumocolor #313, with the 'S' tip,
made by
> > the German company Steadtler. These markers pens rule big time,
they
> > are waterproof, thus permanently, and the tip is very tiny.
> >
> > Regards, Evert




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