Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas

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Subject: Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:28:53 +1100
I agree with Bruce on this, inasmuch as it is two separate problems. It is easy for us experts to not be confused. The issue is that it could also be suggested that highlighting both problems in the same article should reduce the potential confusion to a large proportion of the public who have difficulty in distinguishing the species. I thought the item referred to explained this reasonably well. It could help reduce that confusion because it does show the differences. Confusion is multi-faceted, I could add that my brother (in Melbourne) knew Noisy Miners were bothersome but that was because he thought they were the same things as Grey Butcherbirds.
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Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 10:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas

I find the whole argument of Noisy Miners vs Common (Indian) Mynas really quite pointless and potentially confusing to a large proportion of the public who have difficulty in distinguishing the species.
Yes, each pose their threats to native species, but why link them or rank them?
Studies have shown that Noisies can have detrimental effects on native bushland by excluding smaller insectivorous native birds, but as a native species, they require a different approach than a community based culling program.
From my own observations, there are parts of Mulligans Flat, Goorooyarroo and Campbell Park Nature Reserves where flocks of Noisies are indirectly leading to degradation (and death) of eucalypts.
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas

The item was on ABC TV news tonight.  If you missed it go to ABC I-view and look for ABC ACT TV News.




From: Rosemary Blemings [
Sent: Sunday, 14 December 2014 5:12 PM
To: Bill & Jenny Handke
Subject: Fwd: [canberrabirds] Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas


I expect Bruce will have picked up on this we go again....!



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From: Nathanael Coyne <>

Date: 14 December 2014 4:36:30 PM AEDT

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Subject: [canberrabirds] Noisy Miners v Indian Mynas


Not helpful to compare the two when they're from different families and just happen to have similar distinctive markings!



Nathanael Coyne


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