Everyone,
Forget science....protect it for the birds. Why cant a great birding location
be protected for the sake of birds? Are Hall's Babbler, Chestnut-breasted
Quail-thrush, Bourke's Parrot, Grey Falcon, Black-breasted Buzzard, Redthroat
and White-browed Treecreepers really that common in Western Qld?
Why does there need to be a small, fluffy rat or a trumped up frog on a
location before people will look at it for conserving?
In April we saw 103 species on Bowra in one day without really trying.....thats
worth saving.
Long live Bowra,
Grant Brosie
Raworth, NSW
--- On Thu, 12/6/08, Chris Sanderson <> wrote:
> From: Chris Sanderson <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Bowra
> To: "Birding Aus" <>
> Received: Thursday, 12 June, 2008, 9:53 AM
> Hi all,
>
> What interests me about this whole debate is that no one
> seems to be
> addressing the core concern of the conservation groups
> approached - that for
> the same money much, much more could be protected. If
> someone goes to the
> effort of raising enough to pull off Simon's plan, why
> not invest in a
> different property that has more value for biodiversity?
> After all, the
> groups approached to buy Bowra no doubt consulted with
> experts to come to
> their decision, an offer to buy the property outright for
> them would not
> have been taken lightly. I have visited Bowra and it's
> a lovely place with
> some amazing birds, no denying that, but at the same time,
> it's no
> Mornington Sanctuary, Broome Bird Observatory, or Barren
> Grounds...you want
> someone to buy it, you have to make your case on more than
> rave birding
> reviews. Let's hear some good science.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Simon Blanchflower <
> > wrote:
>
> > This is an interesting debate. Perhaps one thing to
> consider is that people
> > on this list and perhaps through the Birds Australia
> mailing list are
> > specifically invited to particpate in a opportunity to
> part share the
> > ownership of this property with others through say a
> trust structure or
> > perhaps through a tennants in common arrangement. I
> think the trust
> > structure is probably easiest (plus it would be easier
> to administer /
> > provide liquidity for multiple interests) as there are
> a number of trustees
> > available that can "run" the trust and allow
> for exit and entry of unit
> > holders through time.
> >
> > The key issue is the total funds needed in order to
> "run" the property in
> > perpetuity. But let's say the property is worth
> $1.5m and the ongoing costs
> > are say $200k per annum (which may be too little or
> too much) the total cost
> > would be about $4m (assuming an 8% discount rate)
> needed in the trust to
> > purchase the property and to run it.
> >
> > So... if we could get say 1000 unit holders interested
> and assume equal
> > ownership in the trust that would be $4000 each -
> almost equivalent to a set
> > of HANZABs.
> >
> > Now that would be of interest to me and others I
> suspect, but we would of
> > course need to see whether there are any other
> properties in the area which
> > might be better suited from a cost/benefit
> perspective.
> >
> > Just a thought!
> > Simon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Phil & Sue Gregory
> <> wrote:
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > Good summary of the Bowra situation on
> birding-aus; I had a a
> > > wealthy American client a couple of years ago who
> was very impressed
> > > with the place and actually got a group together
> to fund the purchase,
> > > hoping to give it to one of the well-known
> conservation bodies. The
> > > stumbling block proved to be the apparent need
> for hundreds of
> > > thousands of $ as management each year.
> > > This was a great shame as I too would love to
> see the place kept as
> > > is, and aided in recovering from stocking. I fear
> new owners taking it
> > > over, giving birders the flick then running
> intensive stocking and
> > > clearance. I thought the price was very
> reasonable too, it seems such
> > > shame we may lose this gem over what is a
> relatively paltry sum in
> > > business terms.
> > > Phil Gregory
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