Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?

To: Birding-Aus <>
Subject: Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?
From: Joshua Bergmark <>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 01:02:55 +0000
Dear all,

I won't go in to the Facebook debate, but I want to bring the website to the attention of everyone.

Cloudbirders has ultimately become the number one source of archived
birding information in the world, and people would do well to upload trip
reports to the website. Things cannot get lost there. It is now well-used
over most of the planet by a large proportion of world birders, however
Australian reports are generally lacking. It is essentially equivalent to a
worldwide BA archive of trip reports.

I'd love to see more people using it, especially those who are worried that
the good old days of comprehensive trip reports are gone. Have a look at
the website and you'll see this is far from the truth.


On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 10:21, Jason Polak <> wrote:

> Dear All,
> I'd like to share that I remember when Facebook first came out as a
> company to the general public (as opposed to only being available to
> certain universities).
> At the time I was an undergraduate. Curious I checked it out, and read
> their privacy policy. It was pretty bad, and it was clear that they
> didn't respect privacy, so I never signed up. To this day I've refused
> to use their services.
> With Facebook, you are the product. Persona data misuse is not confined
> to the most recent scandal with Cambridge Analytica/Trump. Your data is
> constantly misused and sold. Privacy settings frequently change randomly
> and with little notice.
> Also, if you use Firefox I recommend Ghostery and Privacy Badger to
> block Facebook trackers on other websites from tracking you. And they do
> track you, even when you're not signed in.
> Jason
> On 2018-03-21 09:07 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > Is it time the managers of the various Facebook birding groups sought
> > alternatives?  I've never been comfortable with a Facebook account and
> only
> > have one because of the need to be in touch via the birding groups.  With
> > the recent scandal indicating high-level personal data misuse and
> targeted
> > fake news I think Facebook is really on the nose.
> >
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