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Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?

To: 'Joshua Bergmark' <>, Birding-Aus <>
Subject: Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:26:23 +0000
I just had a look at a few reports on cloudbirders.com, and some aren't hosted 
on that website. What's going on there?

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
> Of Joshua Bergmark
> Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2018 12:03 PM
> To: Birding-Aus <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Facebook Groups for birding - time for a rethink?
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I won't go in to the Facebook debate, but I want to bring the website
> cloudbirders.com to the attention of everyone.
> 
> Cloudbirders has ultimately become the number one source of archived
> birding information in the world, and people would do well to upload trip
> reports to the website. Things cannot get lost there. It is now well-used over
> most of the planet by a large proportion of world birders, however Australian
> reports are generally lacking. It is essentially equivalent to a worldwide BA
> archive of trip reports.
> 
> I'd love to see more people using it, especially those who are worried that
> the good old days of comprehensive trip reports are gone. Have a look at the
> website and you'll see this is far from the truth.
> 
> Cheers,
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 10:21, Jason Polak <> wrote:
> 
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I'd like to share that I remember when Facebook first came out as a
> > company to the general public (as opposed to only being available to
> > certain universities).
> >
> > At the time I was an undergraduate. Curious I checked it out, and read
> > their privacy policy. It was pretty bad, and it was clear that they
> > didn't respect privacy, so I never signed up. To this day I've refused
> > to use their services.
> >
> > With Facebook, you are the product. Persona data misuse is not
> > confined to the most recent scandal with Cambridge Analytica/Trump.
> > Your data is constantly misused and sold. Privacy settings frequently
> > change randomly and with little notice.
> >
> > Also, if you use Firefox I recommend Ghostery and Privacy Badger to
> > block Facebook trackers on other websites from tracking you. And they
> > do track you, even when you're not signed in.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On 2018-03-21 09:07 AM, Steve Clark wrote:
> > > G'day all
> > >
> > > Is it time the managers of the various Facebook birding groups
> > > sought alternatives?  I've never been comfortable with a Facebook
> > > account and
> > only
> > > have one because of the need to be in touch via the birding groups.
> > > With the recent scandal indicating high-level personal data misuse
> > > and
> > targeted
> > > fake news I think Facebook is really on the nose.
> > >
> >
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