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Fwd: names

To: Tone <>
Subject: Fwd: names
From: Denise Goodfellow <>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:28:39 +0000
I guess the reaction would be similar if I told my Indian friends that I saw a 
bandicoot in Australia.


Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
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Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
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On 24 Jan 2017, at 8:12 pm, Tone <> wrote:

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>> From: Tone <>
>> Date: 24 January 2017 at 20:15:29 AEDT
>> To: Tony Russell <>
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] names
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>> Hi Tony
>> I am neither an academic nor a re-namer, I don't have a trumpet to blow, and 
>> I certainly don't need to be noticed. I just like to be understood when I 
>> communicate. If I told my Brazilian friends that I saw a Jabiru in Australia 
>> they would have a giggle because Jabiru mycteria, the only species in the 
>> genus Jabiru, is endemic to South and Central America. Also, Black-necked 
>> Stork is not a new name, having been the official name for our bird for over 
>> a century.
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>> If you want to call a table a chair because that's what you learned when you 
>> were a kiddie, then so be it, but you will only be understood by your those 
>> who know you.
>>
>> Just sayin'
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tony Gibson
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On 23 Jan 2017, at 18:10, Tony Russell <> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think these would be "re-namers" are just blowing their own trumpets to 
>>> gain a little notice. Forget it folks, keep using the names we all grew up 
>>> with, we don't NEED any new names thank you academia.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
>>> michael hunter
>>> Sent: 23 January 2017 16:57
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] names
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>>>
>>> Once again a few academics, mostly not Australian, if not Un-Australian, 
>>> are foisting otherworldly names onto us Aussie birders.
>>>
>>> Common names , NOT ENGLISH names, for Australian birds are names commonly 
>>> used by about 99% of Australian birdwatchers for our birds. It is appalling 
>>> that colourless English names like Black-necked Stork have been inflicted 
>>> on us by a few pseudo-academics who are presumably incapable of memorising 
>>> Scientific names.  Jabiru may be the common name of a South American Stork, 
>>> but changing the official “common” name for any birdwatcher witless enough 
>>> to confuse the two in the field was an amazing arrogance. One justification 
>>> was that people reading birdguides will be confused in not justified.
>>>
>>> These people are meddling with our Australian common names, which are , or 
>>> were, spontaneous non-scientific vernacular.
>>> Among many examples, “Jabiru” and “Torres Straits Pigeon” had romantic (in 
>>> the broad sense folks) connotations lost in the bland generics we are told 
>>> to use instead. As a youth my first sighting of the legendary Jabiru was 
>>> very exciting, and stimulated a life-long interest in Birding.  Seeing a 
>>> Black-necked Stork would not have.
>>>
>>> “Willy Fantail”   They must be joking.
>>>
>>>       Resist.
>>>
>>>              Michael
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