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Fwd: names

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Subject: Fwd: names
From: Tone <>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:42:38 +0000

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> From: Tone <>
> Date: 24 January 2017 at 20:15:29 AEDT
> To: Tony Russell <>
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] names
> 
> Hi Tony 
> I am neither an academic nor a re-namer, I don't have a trumpet to blow, and 
> I certainly don't need to be noticed. I just like to be understood when I 
> communicate. If I told my Brazilian friends that I saw a Jabiru in Australia 
> they would have a giggle because Jabiru mycteria, the only species in the 
> genus Jabiru, is endemic to South and Central America. Also, Black-necked 
> Stork is not a new name, having been the official name for our bird for over 
> a century. 
> 
> If you want to call a table a chair because that's what you learned when you 
> were a kiddie, then so be it, but you will only be understood by your those 
> who know you.
> 
> Just sayin'
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Tony Gibson 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2017, at 18:10, Tony Russell <> wrote:
>> 
>> I think these would be "re-namers" are just blowing their own trumpets to 
>> gain a little notice. Forget it folks, keep using the names we all grew up 
>> with, we don't NEED any new names thank you academia.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
>> michael hunter
>> Sent: 23 January 2017 16:57
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] names
>> 
>> 
>>  Once again a few academics, mostly not Australian, if not Un-Australian, 
>> are foisting otherworldly names onto us Aussie birders.
>> 
>> Common names , NOT ENGLISH names, for Australian birds are names commonly 
>> used by about 99% of Australian birdwatchers for our birds. It is appalling 
>> that colourless English names like Black-necked Stork have been inflicted on 
>> us by a few pseudo-academics who are presumably incapable of memorising 
>> Scientific names.  Jabiru may be the common name of a South American Stork, 
>> but changing the official “common” name for any birdwatcher witless enough 
>> to confuse the two in the field was an amazing arrogance. One justification 
>> was that people reading birdguides will be confused in not justified.  
>> 
>>  These people are meddling with our Australian common names, which are , or 
>> were, spontaneous non-scientific vernacular.
>>  Among many examples, “Jabiru” and “Torres Straits Pigeon” had romantic (in 
>> the broad sense folks) connotations lost in the bland generics we are told 
>> to use instead. As a youth my first sighting of the legendary Jabiru was 
>> very exciting, and stimulated a life-long interest in Birding.  Seeing a 
>> Black-necked Stork would not have.
>> 
>> “Willy Fantail”   They must be joking.
>> 
>>        Resist.
>> 
>>               Michael
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