I think my Kunwinjku relatives will be honoured to know that a man of your
calibre prefers Djagana!
Denise
On 24 Jan 2017, at 12:29 pm, Tony Russell <> wrote:
> Well I reckon we should call it DJAGANA then. Surely no other bird in the
> world has that name. I'm changing my birdlist now.
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> Denise Goodfellow
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> To: michael hunter
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] names
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> When I asked the question on Facebook most replied that they called the bird
> 'Jabiru' even though some were aware of the official name. A Bininj
> grandson in Gunbalanya wrote "Yeah at top end area we called it jabiru big
> name but aboriginal name its DJAGANA". And he's right, as far as Kunwinjku
> and related peoples are concerned - in my experience they all use 'Jabiru',
> as do most of the people I guided over thirty years.
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> Much of Australia's avifauna (and other fauna) is known by European names,
> although there is no close taxonomic association. And 'Bandicoot' is the
> common name of a genus of Asian rodents. I don't see anyone calling for
> these names to be changed.
>
> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
> PO Box 71
> Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
> 043 8650 835
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> On 23 Jan 2017, at 3:56 pm, michael hunter <> wrote:
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>> Once again a few academics, mostly not Australian, if not Un-Australian,
> are foisting otherworldly names onto us Aussie birders.
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>> Common names , NOT ENGLISH names, for Australian birds are names commonly
> used by about 99% of Australian birdwatchers for our birds. It is appalling
> that colourless English names like Black-necked Stork have been inflicted on
> us by a few pseudo-academics who are presumably incapable of memorising
> Scientific names. Jabiru may be the common name of a South American Stork,
> but changing the official "common" name for any birdwatcher witless enough
> to confuse the two in the field was an amazing arrogance. One justification
> was that people reading birdguides will be confused in not justified.
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>> These people are meddling with our Australian common names, which are ,
> or were, spontaneous non-scientific vernacular.
>> Among many examples, "Jabiru" and "Torres Straits Pigeon" had romantic
> (in the broad sense folks) connotations lost in the bland generics we are
> told to use instead. As a youth my first sighting of the legendary Jabiru
> was very exciting, and stimulated a life-long interest in Birding. Seeing a
> Black-necked Stork would not have.
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>> "Willy Fantail" They must be joking.
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>> Resist.
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>> Michael
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