I will keep it in mind, Maris, when I have some spare cash. I did a similar
donation to a Gluepot building project.
> On 8 Dec 2015, at 2:09 PM, Maris Lauva <> wrote:
> In response to Carl's comments donations can be made direct to Birdlife WA
> Great Western Woodlands project and every cent will go towards the project.
> Maris Lauv
> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Carl
> Clifford <>
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2015 10:05 AM
> To: Fred Mack
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia
> It looks like BLA has hired marketeers from the pester school of marketing,
> whose technique seems to be based on the tenet that if they keep on dunning
> you, you will donate, in the hope that they will go away. Unfortunately, they
> don't, they just see a sucker and come in for more. I have just changed ISP's
> and they are the same, ringing me 3-4 times a week, usually at meal times,
> trying to sell me their mobile phone packages.
> What worries me about this style of marketing by charities,such as BLA, is
> the percentage of donations that are absorbed by marketing, in the form of
> salaries, printing and postage etc. It has got to the point with mainstream
> charities such as the Salvos, St Vinnies, that I no longer donate, because I
> know that the majority of my donations will not go to whom I am hoping to
> help. I only now donate to causes where I know my mony is really going to
> make a difference.
> Carl Clifford
>> On 7 Dec 2015, at 10:09 PM, Fred Mack <> wrote:
>> “With numbers down 84%... how long before the Lesser Sand Plover is extinct?
>> “This Silent Shorebirds Crisis can’t continue.”
>> Silent crisis? seriously, it’s been at the forefront of ornithology for 10
>> years hasn't it… are BirdLife Australia just realizing this?.. and is this
>> actually true? Given these people have recently said in similar marketing
>> 90% of Australia’s woodlands have been cleared in the past few decades, we
>> need to protect private land for Mallee- Emu-wrens (they never occured on
>> private land as far as I know) and Magpies are going extinct, you have to
>> I’ve supported this organization in the past to the tune of tens of
>> thousands and all I get is constant negative doomsday marketing trying to
>> guilt me into things. They must send me a dozen a year. Add to that a
>> massive and insultingly invasive, “supporter survey” asking me everything
>> from my income to where live!
>> These people do wonderful actual conservation and research work - I know I
>> help with much of it and they are great! but for god’s sake who is running
>> this organization these days?
>> Is anyone else totally sick of them or is it just me?
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