Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia marketing?

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Subject: Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia marketing?
From: Maris Lauva <>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:06:23 +0000
Like everyone I am sick of getting the begging letters and don't even open them 
now. On the other hand I'm very active in an ambitious Birdlife conservation 
project and understand the need for money. In WA the Great Western Woodlands 
project is currently unfunded, run entirely by Birdlife volunteer effort and 
intending to continue surveys through to 2024 in the world's largest remaining 
temperate woodlands. It seems that because we are not trying to pull a 
particular species back from the brink there is little prospect of funding by 
direct donation, although I believe Birdlife are pretty active behind the 
scenes in trying to bring high wealth individuals on board. In our (the GWW 
Volunteer committee) pursuit for outside grants we are learning that money for 
conservation is really tight. We have successfully achieved one grant to enable 
surveys to proceed in the extremely remote parts of the woodlands - Even those 
are conducted by volunteers but some of their costs are subsidised. The
  great majority of the ongoing effort is unfunded. The result is that our data 
is presently not being utilised as it should due to the lack of a professional 
paid ecologist to do analysis.

To conduct conservation activities Birdlife must raise funds. I wonder about 
the cost/benefit of frequent appeals but I'm no expert. I won't criticise them 
for the effort.

To find out about the Great Western Woodlands Project:
 or contact me, Volunteer Surveys Coordinator at  I will be 
updating the site today to advise of Autumn 2016 surveys.
Perhaps people driving west would like the opportunity to carry out some 
surveys on their way to Perth. You'd be passing through part of the Woodlands. 
It's beautiful country.

Maris Lauva
040302 9051

From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Kai 
Sent: Tuesday, 8 December 2015 8:58 AM
Subject: Is anyone else sick of BirdLife Australia    marketing?

I wonder, is the perception of this group that they really are exceptionally 
good conservation practitioners?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 8 Dec 2015, at 11:23 am, Ian May <> wrote:
> Me too Fred.  I now wish there was an alternative, just like the old BOCA to 
> join.  Somehow BOCA conservation drives seemed linked more to the genuine 
> needs of birds compared to the current situation.  I feel guilty about my 
> negative thoughts on this subject but now, whenever I see a new request for 
> conservation funding support, I cant help asking "who are the human 
> beneficiaries"? before I ask the more important question,  is this cause 
> genuine?
> Ian May
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> Fred Mack wrote:
>> "With numbers down 84%...  how long before the Lesser Sand Plover is extinct?
>> "This Silent Shorebirds Crisis can't continue."
>> Silent crisis? seriously, it's been at the forefront of ornithology for 10 
>> years hasn't it... are BirdLife Australia just realizing this?.. and is this 
>> actually true? Given these people have recently said in similar marketing 
>> 90% of Australia's woodlands have been cleared in the past few decades, we 
>> need to protect private land for Mallee- Emu-wrens (they never occured on 
>> private land as far as I know) and Magpies are going extinct, you have to 
>> wonder?
>> I've supported this organization in the past to the tune of tens of 
>> thousands and all I get is constant negative doomsday marketing trying to 
>> guilt me into things. They must send me a dozen a year. Add to that a 
>> massive and insultingly invasive, "supporter survey" asking me everything 
>> from my income to where live!
>> These people do wonderful actual conservation and research work - I know I 
>> help with much of it and they are great! but for god's sake who is running 
>> this organization these days?
>> Is anyone else totally sick of them or is it just me?
>> Frank.
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