hey Chris,
the outer retrices would ve markedly graduated as well if it were a
Vroad-villed... forget vout the lores, the tail shows more tham emough to ve
diamostic for Leadem...cheers m.cachard
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 06:48:44 -0600
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> I'm not sure it is quite that simple!
>
> I thought the pale lores were a female feature, not found in males.
>
> As for the tail, I am having trouble figuring out exactly what is going
> on, but for sure, it is the OUTER rectrices which might be completely
> white in Broad-bills, not the centrals. But is that a consistent
> feature? And is the outer Rectrix visible anyway? There does seem some
> suggestion of a sharply defined white tip on the right side, which might
> not be so good for Leaden.
>
> That weird shot of it with the wing spread is rather confusing with
> respect to the tail, but does seem to suggest that either a lot of
> rectrices are missing, or the central feathers are growing in, which
> might counter the argument about tail shape. I am just not sure what
> those feathers on the left are - rectrices or the far wing turned inside
> out!
>
> Is the appearance of the gape enough to be sure it is a young bird?
>
> I think it could do with some more discussion!
>
> Cheers, Chris.
>
>
> On 1/16/2015 10:40 PM, Graeme Chapman wrote:
> > Hello Joseph,
> >
> > The first of your pics is remarkably good for a hand-held digiscope setup.
> >
> > Martin is correct - the lack of pale lores and the even length rectrices
> > make it a Leaden Flycatcher - Broad -bills have graduated tail feathers and
> > pale lores.
> >
> > The heavily tumoured gape make it a very young bird. An ideal diagnostic
> > picture would have been with the bird front-on and we would have seen the
> > central rectrices which are all white in the Broad-billed.
> >
> > There's a good range of pictures dealing with this issue on my website -
> > www.graemechapman.com.au
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Graeme Chapman
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