Not a bird species, but I would be worried about how opening up some of the
World Heritage Area for logging would impact on local Tasmanian Devil
populations. On the few occasions that I have visited Tasmania, it seemed
that the number of animal road-kills, generally, were much higher along
roads within or near logging areas. Perhaps displaced or resident animals
being hit by logging trucks or other vehicles??? Tasmanian Devils scavenge
on road-kills which I assume would put them at greater risk of becoming
road-kill victims themselves.
With wild Tasmanian Devil populations declining significantly in recent
times as a result of Devil Facial Tumour Disease (DFTD), do we want to put
them at even greater risk of decline as a result of potential increased
incidence of TD road-kills?
There are also a number of studies of vertebrate populations which show that
animals that are stressed as a result of human activities are more
susceptible to diseases. I realise that DFTD is extremely contagious and if
one Tassie Devil comes into contact with another with DFTD, it will mostly
likely become infected. But what if logging increases physiological stress
in Tasmanian Devils (and I don't know if it does), would that make a TD's
immune system less able to fight DFTD?
Stephen Ambrose
Ryde NSW
-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
Greg and Val Clancy
Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2014 11:57 AM
To: Ian May; Jeremy O'Wheel
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?
Correct me if I am wrong but the threatened subspecies of the Wedge-tailed
Eagle in Tasmania is adversely affected by logging. I would be surprised if
other species aren't similarly affected despite that fact that some species
thrive on the disturbance created by logging.
Regards
Greg
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian May
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 7:41 PM
To: Jeremy O'Wheel
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: Does Australia Have Too Many National Parks?
<>Jeremy
In Tasmania, dedicated National Parks cover about 20% of the State,
while more than 50% is tied up in State Reserves that exclude economic
activity considered normal even in National Parks Reserves in many other
parts of Australia (Mining exploration etc.). We all know that National
Parks reserves also include Conservation Parks, Recreational Parks,
Regional Reserves, Game Reserves etc etc and not just National Parks.
The end result to the economy is the same if it restricts or excludes
most economic activity in the same manner.
Until recently, in most States of Australia, "Reasonable representation
of natural habitat" was considered a target of approximately 15% of the
habitat zones <>and few should object to reasonable representation of
natural areas for nature conservation and protection. And No, I am not
suggesting open slather should be practiced in the rest.
But now the so called Tasmanian Forestry agreement proposes to reserve
more than 500,000 ha of previously logged forestry access areas (most of
which are dry sclerophyll forest and not "Old Growth Rain Forest") and
place under National Parks management. As you would know, the
agreement even excludes selective logging forestry (sustainable
forestry), an industry that previously gave opportunity of employment to
many many underprivileged people in regional areas of Tasmania. The
Forest Industry in Tasmania is now lost and these people have nowhere to
go.
It probably would not be so bad if there were some demonstrated
environmental benefits from all this but there are none that I can
see. Even Masked Owls, Spotted Quail Thrush, Olive Whistlers, Pink and
Flame Robins do well in Selectively logged Forestry zones.
Anyway, enough diatribe from me but if you would like to name Tasmanian
bird species significantly disadvantaged by selective logging forestry,
I would appreciate the information.
Regards
Ian May
St Helens, Tasmania.
Jeremy O'Wheel wrote:
> Actually Ian, in Tasmania about 21% of land is in national parks. The
> figures most often quoted is that over 40% is in National Parks and
> "reserves." Reserves have varying levels of protection, but are not
> national parks.
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 6 March 2014 18:34, Ian May <
> <>> wrote:
>
> Hello Tom
>
> Yes, I like to push some buttons too however in this debate I am
> only an ill informed observer. It should be noted that reserving
> more than 50% of Tasmania to unmanaged National Parks Reserves has
> killed this states economy, condemned many of its residence to
> generations of welfare and created the worst circumstances
> possible for the management of wild fires. But before linking recent
> major bushfires, droughts etc. to some
> peoples theories about climate change, have a look at this.
>
> http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/fireall.html
>
> regards
>
> Ian
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Tom Tarrant wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> After all the recent fires in Tasmania, will the 'good citizens of
> Tasmania' be more concerned about their economy or
> climate-change?....we recently saw the writing on the wall' in the
> Redcliffe by-election and I think there will be further
> surprises in
> the forthcoming re-run of the WA senate election, I would like to
> think that there is still hope for Tassies Forests, and will still
> continue to push poll-buttons (....when I'm not at work),
>
> best of luck,
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Ian May
> < <>> wrote:
>
> g'Day Peter, Dave and all
>
> Perhaps most Green zealots do little else but sit around
> and play with their
> iphones while waiting for an opportunity to push poll
> buttons and preach
> left wing philosophy. It probably takes more time for
> more productive
> members of society who are mostly at work to find out or
> even bother with
> frivolous polls in Fairfax media.
> The reality seems to be, that the Green pendulum has swung
> back to the
> right. Especially here in Tasmania, most if its good
> citizens appear to be
> fed up with the high social costs of being lumbered with
> green public policy
> that has achieved little more than to make the state a
> feel good playground
> for visitors.
> The saddest part is that despite such a high social cost,
> there has been
> little success in achieving reasonable conservation
> benchmarks, i.e.
> Orange-bellied Parrot. The costly green experiment
> appears to have failed.
>
> regards
>
>
> Ian May
> PO Box 110
> St Helens, Tasmania. 7216
> Mob: 0428337956
>
>
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>
>
>
> Peter Shute wrote:
>
>
> It's now on 83% yes, and the vote count has increased
> from about 3000 when
> I looked yesterday evening to nearly 120,000.
>
> At least it's now obvious it can't be believed.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
>
> <>] On
> Behalf
> Of Judy Leitch
> Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 8:34 AM
> To: 'Dave Torr'; 'Laurie Knight'
> Cc: 'birding-aus'
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too
> Many National Parks?
>
> I voted and at that time the NO vote was ahead, I
> checked 5 mins later
> and the YES vote had doubled :( This also happened
> 2 weeks ago in a Gold
> Coast Bulletin online poll with regards a Cruise
> Ship Terminal on our
> wonderful Broadwater.
> Check this out -
>
>
> http://www.itnews.com.au/News/331994,ballot-stuffing-bot-hits-
> news-ltd-polls
> .aspx
>
> Judy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus
>
> <>] On
> Behalf
> Of Dave Torr
> Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2014 7:19 AM
> To: Laurie Knight
> Cc: birding-aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Does Australia Have Too
> Many National Parks?
>
> It is well known that all Fairfax readers are
> left-wing, tree-hugging
> greenies so why would any good conservative
> government any any attention to
> such a poll?
>
>
> On 5 March 2014 17:55, Laurie Knight
> <
> <>> wrote:
>
>
>
> There is a link between the conservation
> estate and the
>
> preservation
>
> of wildlife.
>
> The Australian PM is quoted as saying "We
> don't support, as a government
> and as a Coalition, further lockouts of our
>
> forests ...We
>
> have quite enough National Parks, we have
> quite enough locked up forests
> already. In fact, in an important respect, we
> have too much locked
>
>
> up forest."
>
>
> There is a poll in the Fairfax media that runs
> until 9 pm
>
> EST, 10 pm
>
> EDST and 7 pm WST where you can note your opinion.
>
>
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-
>
> news/no-more-national-parks-as-tony-abbott-pledges-to-
>
> support-loggers-as-the-ultimate-conservationists-20140305-345zp.html
>
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