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Koel identification

To: Dave Torr <>, Brian & Meg <>
Subject: Koel identification
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:21:42 -0800 (PST)
It's quite complicated. 
According to Clements Australian Koel (Eudynamys cyanocephalus) is a full 
species separate from all other Koels, and Pacific Koel (Eudynamys scolopaceus 
[orientalis Group]) is a subspecies group within Asian Koel (Eudynamys 
scolopaceus). 
In contrast, IOC has the two Australian taxa (cyanocephalus and 
subcyanocephalus) as subspecies of Pacific Koel (Eudynamys orientalis).

Haven't had the chance to look at the primary literature and won't have for 
some time...

Cheers,

Nikolas


Clements lists the following Koel taxa:

Microdynamis parvaDwarf Koel
Microdynamis parva grisescens
Microdynamis parva parva

Eudynamys melanorhynchusBlack-billed Koel
Eudynamys melanorhynchus melanorhynchus
Eudynamys melanorhynchus facialis

Eudynamys scolopaceusAsian Koel
Eudynamys scolopaceus [scolopaceus Group]Asian Koel (Asian)
Eudynamys scolopaceus scolopaceus
Eudynamys scolopaceus chinensis
Eudynamys scolopaceus harterti
Eudynamys scolopaceus malayanus
Eudynamys scolopaceus simalurensis
Eudynamys scolopaceus frater
Eudynamys scolopaceus mindanensis

Eudynamys scolopaceus [orientalis Group]Asian Koel (Pacific)
Eudynamys scolopaceus corvinus
Eudynamys scolopaceus orientalis
Eudynamys scolopaceus picatus
Eudynamys scolopaceus rufiventer
Eudynamys scolopaceus salvadorii
Eudynamys scolopaceus alberti

Eudynamys cyanocephalusAustralian Koel
Eudynamys cyanocephalus subcyanocephalus
Eudynamys cyanocephalus cyanocephalus

Eudynamys taitensisLong-tailed Koel
 


IOC lists the following taxa:

Dwarf KoelMicrodynamis parva  (Salvadori, 1876)AU : New Guinea 
       M. p. grisescens  Mayr & Rand, 1936nc and ne New Guinea 
       M. p. parva  (Salvadori, 1876)s New Guinea, D'Entrecasteaux Arch.
 
Asian KoelEudynamys scolopaceus  (Linnaeus, 1758)OR : widespread, also Lesser 
Sundas 
       E. s. scolopaceus  (Linnaeus, 1758)Nepal, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, 
Laccadives and Maldives 
       E. s. chinensis  Cabanis & Heine, 1863s China, Indochina 
       E. s. harterti  Ingram, W, 1912Hainan (off se China) 
       E. s. malayanus  Cabanis & Heine, 1863ne India and Bangladesh to 
Sumatra, Borneo and w Lesser Sundas 
       E. s. mindanensis  (Linnaeus, 1766)Palawan and the Philippines to the n 
Moluccas
 
Black-billed KoelEudynamys melanorhynchus  Müller, S, 1843AU : Sulawesi, Sula 
Islands.
 
Pacific KoelEudynamys orientalis  (Linnaeus, 1766)AU : s Moluccas to n, e 
Australia. 
       E. o. orientalis  (Linnaeus, 1766)s Moluccas 
       E. o. picatus  Müller, S, 1843Sumba to Timor and Kai Is. 
       E. o. rufiventer  (Lesson, 1830)New Guinea 
       E. o. minimus  van Oort, 1911sw New Guinea 
       E. o. hybrida  Diamond, 2002Long I. (off ne New Guinea) 
       E. o. salvadorii  Hartert, 1900Bismarck Arch. 
       E. o. alberti  Rothschild & Hartert, 1907Solomon Is. 
       E. o. cyanocephalus  (Latham, 1801)n Queensland to s New South Wales 
       E. o. subcyanocephalus  Mathews, 1912nw Australia to nw Queensland 

Long-tailed CuckooUrodynamis taitensis  (Sparrman, 1787)AU : New Zealand
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Nikolas Haass

Brisbane, QLD


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From: Dave Torr <>
To: Brian & Meg <> 
Cc: birding-aus <> 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 8:31 AM
Subject: Koel identification
 

As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*) gets as
far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not split)
*cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and another
ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to nw Queensland"
However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand shows - the IOC
is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give different
answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the Indonesian archipelago and
I guess either species could occur in the northern parts of our domain!





On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg <> wrote:

> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense of where this
> bird is really at.!!!!
> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the Australian
> Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel. The Koel seen in the west
> (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually reported from either
> Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
> Can anyone add to this assumption?
> Thanks
> Brian
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