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Koel identification

To: Dave Torr <>
Subject: Koel identification
From: John Graff <>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:39:04 +0800
My understanding (whether it's correct is another story), is that Pacific is 
the usual one across the mainland, but Asian is the one most often reported 
from Christmas & Cocos

John

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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 6:32 am, "Dave Torr" <> wrote:
> 
> As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
> According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*) gets as
> far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
> Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not split)
> *cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and another
> ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to nw Queensland"
> However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand shows - the IOC
> is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give different
> answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the Indonesian archipelago and
> I guess either species could occur in the northern parts of our domain!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg <> wrote:
>> 
>> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense of where this
>> bird is really at.!!!!
>> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the Australian
>> Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel. The Koel seen in the west
>> (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually reported from either
>> Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
>> Can anyone add to this assumption?
>> Thanks
>> Brian
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