Old name pre-splits I think
J.
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> On 3 Feb 2014, at 8:58 am, "Peter Shute" <> wrote:
>
> So where does "Eastern Koel" fit in? That's the name used in the Pizzey and
> Knight app and the Morcombe app.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus
>> On Behalf Of John Graff
>> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 11:39 AM
>> To: Dave Torr
>> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Koel identification
>>
>> My understanding (whether it's correct is another story), is
>> that Pacific is the usual one across the mainland, but Asian
>> is the one most often reported from Christmas & Cocos
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 6:32 am, "Dave Torr" <> wrote:
>>>
>>> As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
>>> According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*)
>>> gets as far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
>>> Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not
>>> split)
>>> *cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and
>>> another ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to
>> nw Queensland"
>>> However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand
>> shows - the
>>> IOC is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give
>>> different answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the
>> Indonesian
>>> archipelago and I guess either species could occur in the
>> northern parts of our domain!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg
>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense
>> of where
>>>> this bird is really at.!!!!
>>>> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the
>>>> Australian Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel.
>> The Koel
>>>> seen in the west (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually
>>>> reported from either Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
>>>> Can anyone add to this assumption?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Brian
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