Does anyone have any idea why this change was made (and by whom)? It seems
to me that we have only recently changed from Common Koel to Eastern Koel
so another change is a pain.
Martin
On 3 February 2014 12:22, Dave Torr <> wrote:
> I am sure (but don't have time to check) that different taxonomies - C&B,
> BirdLife, Clements etc - may treat this - and other species - differently.
> No right answers!
>
>
> On 3 February 2014 12:07, John Graff <> wrote:
>
> > Old name pre-splits I think
> >
> > J.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 3 Feb 2014, at 8:58 am, "Peter Shute" <> wrote:
> > >
> > > So where does "Eastern Koel" fit in? That's the name used in the Pizzey
> > and Knight app and the Morcombe app.
> > >
> > > Peter Shute
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Birding-Aus
> > >> On Behalf Of John Graff
> > >> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 11:39 AM
> > >> To: Dave Torr
> > >> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> > >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Koel identification
> > >>
> > >> My understanding (whether it's correct is another story), is
> > >> that Pacific is the usual one across the mainland, but Asian
> > >> is the one most often reported from Christmas & Cocos
> > >>
> > >> John
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 6:32 am, "Dave Torr" <> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
> > >>> According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*)
> > >>> gets as far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
> > >>> Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not
> > >>> split)
> > >>> *cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and
> > >>> another ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to
> > >> nw Queensland"
> > >>> However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand
> > >> shows - the
> > >>> IOC is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give
> > >>> different answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the
> > >> Indonesian
> > >>> archipelago and I guess either species could occur in the
> > >> northern parts of our domain!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg
> > >> <> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense
> > >> of where
> > >>>> this bird is really at.!!!!
> > >>>> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the
> > >>>> Australian Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel.
> > >> The Koel
> > >>>> seen in the west (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually
> > >>>> reported from either Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
> > >>>> Can anyone add to this assumption?
> > >>>> Thanks
> > >>>> Brian
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