I am sure (but don't have time to check) that different taxonomies - C&B,
BirdLife, Clements etc - may treat this - and other species - differently.
No right answers!
On 3 February 2014 12:07, John Graff <> wrote:
> Old name pre-splits I think
>
> J.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 3 Feb 2014, at 8:58 am, "Peter Shute" <> wrote:
> >
> > So where does "Eastern Koel" fit in? That's the name used in the Pizzey
> and Knight app and the Morcombe app.
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Birding-Aus
> >> On Behalf Of John Graff
> >> Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 11:39 AM
> >> To: Dave Torr
> >> Cc: Brian & Meg; birding-aus
> >> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Koel identification
> >>
> >> My understanding (whether it's correct is another story), is
> >> that Pacific is the usual one across the mainland, but Asian
> >> is the one most often reported from Christmas & Cocos
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 6:32 am, "Dave Torr" <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As with so many things, depends (probably) on your chosen taxonomy.
> >>> According to the IOC 4.1 list, Asian Koel (*Eudynamys scolopaceus*)
> >>> gets as far as Borneo and the Lesser Sundas.
> >>> Pacific Koel (*Eudynamys orientalis*) has a subspecies (thus not
> >>> split)
> >>> *cyanocephalus* with range "n Queensland to s New South Wales" and
> >>> another ssp *subcyanocephalus* with range "nw Australia to
> >> nw Queensland"
> >>> However - as my recent query on Heuglin's Gull in Thailand
> >> shows - the
> >>> IOC is not always correct - and a different taxonomy may give
> >>> different answers! DIfferent ssp of this also occur in the
> >> Indonesian
> >>> archipelago and I guess either species could occur in the
> >> northern parts of our domain!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 3 February 2014 08:52, Brian & Meg
> >> <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Would the following be correct??? I'm trying to make sense
> >> of where
> >>>> this bird is really at.!!!!
> >>>> The Koel that we all see & hear in eastern Australia is the
> >>>> Australian Koel which is a subspecies of the Pacific Koel.
> >> The Koel
> >>>> seen in the west (Indian Ocean area) is the Asian Koel - usually
> >>>> reported from either Christmas Is, Cocos-Keeling &/or Ashmore Reef.
> >>>> Can anyone add to this assumption?
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Brian
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