Yes - how can we track the spread of ferals if people don't record them?
On 26 November 2012 18:59, Ed Williams <> wrote:
> Tony,
> I have always thought the way you segregated introduced-species into a
> separate list had tones of an earlier era when Nelson Mandela was still in
> prison...
> However at least you acknowledge they exist. I know of a birder who point
> blank refuses to acknowledge that Feral Pigeons/Rock Pigeons/Rock Doves
> (whatever you choose to call them) actually exist in Australia. Won't even
> report them on Birdata mapping surveys - which hardly helps monitor the
> birds properly!
>
> Cheers,
> Ed
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:41:28 +0000
> > From:
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Can I tick these birds?
> >
> > Hi Koren (and everyone else),
> >
> > Generally speaking, it's your list, so your rules. I think that if you
> > tick a House Sparrow in Melbourne, then you're also fine to tick
> > anything translocated in New Zealand.
> > I have a couple of friends who consider me to have a fascist list
> > policy in that I don't tick introduced species (I keep them on a
> > separate list), so I finally added Spotted Dove and Common Myna last
> > week when passing through Singapore, rather than ticking them in
> > Sydney. However, I understand that makes me a bit odd...
> > Sadly, it looks like being a very long time until I can add something to
> > my Australian list as I'm now in the cold dark islands of the North for
> > at least the next two years. I'm just quite pleased that my last
> > Australian tick was an Australian Bittern!
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > On 26/11/2012 03:12, Koren Mitchell wrote:
> > > I know, I know, always a question that provokes discussion, but I
> thought I'd ask anyway. Not wanting to argue, just interested in people's
> opinions.
> > >
> > > I'm currently in Wellington and just got back from a trip to Zealandia
> sanctuary. This is a place on the outskirts of Wellington where they have
> built a predator-proof fence and reintroduced some of the species that were
> originally there, as well as a couple from other parts of the country.
> These birds are free-flying (apart from the takahe which is flightless) and
> most have now been breeding in the sanctuary for between 5 and 10 years.
> > >
> > > So, can I legitimately count on my life list the birds that I saw in
> the sanctuary (apart from the takahe which I wouldn't count as it is
> definitely 'in captivity')? Is seeing the birds in this sanctuary any
> different from going to Kapiti Island, where many of the same birds have
> been reintroduced?
> > >
> > > Regards, Koren
> > >
> > > Koren Mitchell
> > > Sent from my iPad
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