I would suggest the description 'birder' hardly fits...
Regards, Clive.
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From: Ed Williams <>
To: colonelboris <>; birding-aus
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Sent: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 4:00 pm
Subject: Can I tick these birds?
Tony,
I have always thought the way you segregated introduced-species into a separate
list had tones of an earlier era when Nelson Mandela was still in prison...
However at least you acknowledge they exist. I know of a birder who point
blank
refuses to acknowledge that Feral Pigeons/Rock Pigeons/Rock Doves (whatever you
choose to call them) actually exist in Australia. Won't even report them on
Birdata mapping surveys - which hardly helps monitor the birds properly!
Cheers,
Ed
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 06:41:28 +0000
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Can I tick these birds?
>
> Hi Koren (and everyone else),
>
> Generally speaking, it's your list, so your rules. I think that if you
> tick a House Sparrow in Melbourne, then you're also fine to tick
> anything translocated in New Zealand.
> I have a couple of friends who consider me to have a fascist list
> policy in that I don't tick introduced species (I keep them on a
> separate list), so I finally added Spotted Dove and Common Myna last
> week when passing through Singapore, rather than ticking them in
> Sydney. However, I understand that makes me a bit odd...
> Sadly, it looks like being a very long time until I can add something to
> my Australian list as I'm now in the cold dark islands of the North for
> at least the next two years. I'm just quite pleased that my last
> Australian tick was an Australian Bittern!
> Cheers,
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 26/11/2012 03:12, Koren Mitchell wrote:
> > I know, I know, always a question that provokes discussion, but I thought
I'd ask anyway. Not wanting to argue, just interested in people's opinions.
> >
> > I'm currently in Wellington and just got back from a trip to Zealandia
sanctuary. This is a place on the outskirts of Wellington where they have built
a predator-proof fence and reintroduced some of the species that were
originally
there, as well as a couple from other parts of the country. These birds are
free-flying (apart from the takahe which is flightless) and most have now been
breeding in the sanctuary for between 5 and 10 years.
> >
> > So, can I legitimately count on my life list the birds that I saw in the
sanctuary (apart from the takahe which I wouldn't count as it is definitely 'in
captivity')? Is seeing the birds in this sanctuary any different from going to
Kapiti Island, where many of the same birds have been reintroduced?
> >
> > Regards, Koren
> >
> > Koren Mitchell
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