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Can I tick these birds?

To: Alistair McKeough <>, Koren Mitchell <>
Subject: Can I tick these birds?
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0800 (PST)
Hi Koren,

With regards to NZ, I personally think that it is much more fun to see birds in 
their natural habitat (even though it is man-made natural habitat) than in 
degraded habitat dominated by European tree monocultures and lawns. So, even if 
these birds are (re-)introduced, to Tiritiri, Kapiti, Zealandia etc. the actual 
experience there is much more 'real' than seeing the same species in their 
natural range in 'unreal' habitat. I thought that birding the North Island is 
very depressive since the majority of the place is destroyed, same accounts for 
large parts of the South Island, too :-(

Of course, I also wouldn't "carry my little black book into a zoo", Alistair! 
Although I remember that as a kid I 'ticked' a number of wild American birds 
attracted to the great conditions in an African Safari Park near San Diego.

Cheers,
 
Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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From: Alistair McKeough <>
To: Koren Mitchell <> 
Cc: "" <> 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Can I tick these birds?
 
Only you can decide.

I've seen Gouldian Finch at Mareeba Wetlands. 50 meters later I got to the
"cage" where birds can enter and leave. Scratching.

Personally, when I'm heading to a zoo (or other form of "sanctuary") I have
don't even carry my little black book.

Al





On 26 November 2012 14:12, Koren Mitchell <> wrote:

> I know, I know, always a question that provokes discussion, but I thought
> I'd ask anyway. Not wanting to argue, just interested in people's opinions.
>
> I'm currently in Wellington and just got back from a trip to Zealandia
> sanctuary. This is a place on the outskirts of Wellington where they have
> built a predator-proof fence and reintroduced some of the species that were
> originally there, as well as a couple from other parts of the country.
> These birds are free-flying (apart from the takahe which is flightless) and
> most have now been breeding in the sanctuary for between 5 and 10 years.
>
> So, can I legitimately count on my life list the birds that I saw in the
> sanctuary (apart from the takahe which I wouldn't count as it is definitely
> 'in captivity')? Is seeing the birds in this sanctuary any different from
> going to Kapiti Island, where many of the same birds have been reintroduced?
>
> Regards, Koren
>
> Koren Mitchell
> Sent from my iPad
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