Ah, but we got them back so no reason not to use the local Aboriginal name.
2009/11/24 Denise Goodfellow <>
> I suggest that seeing Victoria got rid of its Magpie-geese and they're so
> important to people like the Kunwinjku in Arnhem Land, that their name be
> adopted - Manimanuk.
> Denise
>
>
> on 24/11/09 1:46 PM, at
> wrote:
>
> > Wombats are still badgers in parts of Tasmania!
> >
> > Excellent suggestion Mark. There will be problems with the plethora of
> > Aboriginal languages (and the difficulty English speakers have
> pronouncing
> > Aboriginal words) and differences between their taxonomy and that of
> > Western science but and it shouldn't be too great a task.
> >
> > Consider the following:
> >
> > Western Kulin names (from southwestern Victoria)
> >
> > Maerii - Gang Gang Cockatoo
> > Pirtuup - Sandpiper
> > Wilann - Black Cockatoo [probably Red-tailed]
> >
> > Eastern Kulin names (from central Victoria)
> >
> > Kruk-wor-rum - Snipe
> > Dulum - Black Duck
> > Bath-mum - Wood Duck
> > Uu-gup - King Parrot
> > Barrawarn - Australian Magpie
> > Tee-yung - Rose Robin
> > Nup-nup or Bik-mum - [Magpie] goose
> >
> > Some of the words may not use the linguistically preferred spelling but
> you
> > should get an idea of what could work.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Carter
> > <markthomascarter
> > @yahoo.co.uk>
> To
> > Sent by:
> > birding-aus-bounc
> cc
> >
> >
> Subject
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Re 'Jabiru'
> > 24/11/09 01:55 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I agree with Philip Veerman's post- the confusing 'Jabiru' is just the
> tip
> > of the iceberg when it comes to Australian bird common names. I think
> > settlers did Australian birds a great diservice when they set about
> naming
> > them after the vaguely similar species of elsewhere but it was
> > understandible. What I don't understand is the way 21st century
> ornithology
> > persists with these clumsy confusing labels. A Red-capped Robin is not a
> > robin in much the same way than a Koala bear is not a bear. Mammologists
> > have gotten over this dodgy inheritance years ago- native cats are now
> > almost universally renamed quolls, marsupial mice are now dunnarts (or
> > antichinus or psuedo antichinus or...) and porcupines are now echidnas.
> > Australian birds such as shrike-thrushes, woodswallows, wrens, chats,
> > magpies, babblers and treecreepers are intrinsically awesome and don't
> > deserve to be encumbered by these clumsy, 2nd hand, confusing and often
> > dreadful misnomers (shrike-thrush particularly makes me cringe). These is
> a
> > vast and rich source of authentic names in the many Aboriginal languages
> of
> > our continent- is it outragous to suggest we consider this?
> >
> > Mark Carter
> > Alice Springs
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> >
> > Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:24 +1100
> > From: "Philip Veerman" <>
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Re 'Jabiru'
> > To: "'Tony Russell'" <>
> > Cc: "Birding-aus \(E-mail\)" <>
> > Message-ID: <>
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> >
> > Surely their proper name is the Australian Black Satin-necked non-jabiru
> > Stork. (joke)
> >
> > Why doesn't some book author take the initiative to rename some bird
> > groups to simpler things, like rename the Cuckoo-shrikes as Cush e.g.
> > "Black-faced Cush" and likewise invent other new names, so we can
> > dispense with all those silly names like "Cuckoo-shrike" (not a joke).
> > After all, names are just labels, why not have distinctive ones that
> > don't give wrong impressions.
> >
> > Philip Veerman
> > 24 Castley Circuit
> > Kambah ACT 2902
> >
> > 02 - 62314041
> >
> >
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