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Re: columnists on the Bush Fires, a caution

To: Robert Inglis <>
Subject: Re: columnists on the Bush Fires, a caution
From: "Scott O'Keeffe" <>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:30:47 +1000
Robert Inglis wrote:
Well, this has been some day!

As a result of my posting I have received some interesting, to say the least, responses. Unfortunately, some of those responses have made unpleasant reading. More fool me for thinking I could have a reasonable discussion about such a topic on this forum .

I don't want to add to the detritus other than to point out to those people who may be having difficulty understanding what I have previously written in plain, simple English: - no where in my posting or anywhere else have I said I agree with Miranda Devine; - no where have I said that anyone should accept as truth what Miranda Devine has written; - no where have I said that every one should not read what Miranda Devine has written; - no where have I said that I object to other people having a different opinion to mine; - no where have I said that anyone or everyone should have the same opinion as mine;
- no where have I said that I favour prescribed burning;
- no where have I said I don't favour prescribed burning;
- no where have I expressed an opinion on prescribed burning;
- no where have I said that greenies are to blame for the fire disaster of Black Saturday; - no where have I said anyone is to blame for the fire disaster of Black Saturday; - no where have I claimed to know anything about bush-fires, prescribed burning, the dangers of living in fire-prone areas.
Anyone who claims the contrary is simply being mischievous.

What I have said is that I believe people should listen to all of the arguments and points of view before rushing into a hasty conclusion.
If people don't want to do that, then that is their problem.

I have no more to say on this subject on this forum.

Bob Inglis
Sandstone Point
Qld


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Bob Inglis said:
"What I have said is that I believe people should listen to all of the arguments and points of view before rushing into a hasty conclusion.
If people don't want to do that, then that is their problem."

Yes, its reasonable to suggest that we consider all points of view. But there are two strands to this discussion. The strong offence taken Divine and her ilk is not to do with their belief in this-that-or-the-other cause of the bushfires. I dont think anyone in this discussion, apart from perhaps the Diva herself would advocate restrictions on freedom of speech. But freedom of speech is not unlimited. The offence I have taken is to the calls to single out particular groups of people for violent, vigilante treatment, for political purposes. Divine is free to think what she wants about conservation, backburning, fuel reduction, or anything else. She is not free to call for lynchings, irrestpective of the serious consequences and suffering caused by the bushfires. Advocating violence against people is illegal, and for someone in her "profession" it is a breach of ethical conduct. Using the suffering of people who have been affected by the bushfire to illicit an irrational, populist response is gutter journalism. For all of us, it should be treated as morally reprehensible and unacceptable. People should not have to 'listen' to anyone advocating hate. Call me hasty if you want, but I don't need to give this aspect of the issue any further consideration before deciding what I think of it.
Scott O'Keeffe

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