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Canada Geese Update

To: "Gary Davidson" <>
Subject: Canada Geese Update
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:15:28 +1100
When I lived in the southern USA (Atlanta) a few years ago I was told that
most of the local Canada Geese used to migrate each year to Canada but this
was no longer the case as they found living in city parks too easy!

On the subject of hunting I think it is true there are less hunters now in
the US - I read an article a month or so back which reckoned that - as many
states funded conservation efforts from hunters fees - they were now able to
spend less on conservation than before because of the decline!

On 31/12/2007, Gary Davidson <> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure I agree with Carl's assessment here.  Canada Geese are
> definitely expanding their winter range northward into areas that they have
> never previously inhabited in winter.  And, as I mentioned in my previous
> post, they are learning to adapt to human altered landscapes.  City parks
> are now a favourite.  It is largely this adaptation that has earned them
> 'pest' status in many cities and towns in the USA and Canada.  To say that
> this is all due to reduced hunting pressures is much too simplistic.
>   And by the way, the species Canada Goose, Branta canadensis, has
> recently been split into two species.  There have always been a large number
> of recognisable subspecies.  Now several of the smaller subspecies have been
> split off and are now called Cackling Goose, Branta hutchinsii.
>   Gary Davidson
>   Nakusp, BC
>   Canada
>
> Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>   The numbers of Canada Geese have been increasing in numbers in its
> native habitat in North America over the last 50 or so years and have
> become a nuisance in some areas. The main reason for this increase in
> numbers I think you will find, is that there are less people in the
> USA and Canada out there blowing the daylights out of them in the
> name of Sport. I think that Humans are more of a pest species to the
> Geese, than the opposite. The Geese are only regaining their original
> range and numbers.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 30/12/2007, at 10:03 PM, Dave Torr wrote:
>
> Not just the UK and NZ - in many parts of the US I believe it has now
> expanded to "pest" status (at least unofficially)
>
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