Hi Ben,
I also agree with David that the establishment and harvesting of tree
plantations on cleared farmland is preferable to the loss of existing
forests.
My concern about Ben's suggestion of harvesting old-growth native forest
over cycles in excess of 100 years is that clearing of some forest areas in
South-west WA in the 1960s/70s resulted in the spread of Phytophthora and
subsequent dieback of extensive areas of Jarrah and Karri forest. I realise
that heavy machinery used in mining and transporting bauxite ore (rather
than logging) was largely responsible for spreading the fungus, but heavy
machinery is also involved in logging and transporting timber these days.
Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW
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On Behalf Of Dave Torr
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 6:57 AM
To: Ben Allen
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Subject: Tassie Pulp Mill
But surely plantations on farm land would be preferable to the loss of
existing forests?
Given our apparently insatiable desire for paper then a pulp mill is
needed somewhere - and I guess that having one in Aus where we have so
control over the environmental conditions is better than using one
overseas where we have no knowledge of what is happening - and also
better for our trade balance. I guess the logging will happen whether
we process the stuff here or export the raw wood chips!
On 08/10/2007, Ben Allen <> wrote:
>
> I am not well versed on the Tassie Pulp Mill issue and do not pretend to
be well informed on the issue of pulp mills.
>
> However I do feel that I would prefer to see thousands of square miles of
native forest harvested over cycles in excess of 100 years (as was practiced
in WA) then to see the present preferred solution of tens of thousands of
square kilometers of mono-specific, naturally sterile cultivated forest as
we seem to have now.
>
> The very sad and painful loss of the old habitats, old trees and varied
flora and fauna that was built up in the ecosystems of these old growth
forests is in itself preferable to the destruction and harvesting of vast
areas of planted and managed forests, with little disturbance to any bird
life, fauna or other levels of activity because of the very lack of life in
the mono-cultured environments.
>
> Obviously the ideal is to have no harvesting, but if that is not an
economic reality then I personally would prefer to see the use of long cycle
native forests with a managed harvesting system to promote diversity and
species survival at every level. I am certainly not keen on the widespread
use of cultivated mono-specific tree cropping which seems to be the present
trend.
>
> Regards
>
> Ben
>
> from [Tony Russell (
http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=+from:
&idxname=birding-aus&sort=date:late )]
>
> To: "'Rosemary Royle'" <>, "'Evan Beaver'"
<>, "'Birding-aus (E-mail)'" <>
> Subject: Tassie Pulp Mill
> From: "Tony Russell" <>
> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:21:00 +0930
>
> Maybe you've got a government with half a brain in its head Rosemary. Our
governments are still suffering with the extractive mind set of the European
rapists of a bygone era. Tony. -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary
Royle Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:35 PM
To: Evan Beaver; Tony Russell; Birding-aus (E-mail) Subject: Tassie Pulp
Mill "The debate about whether or not it was in Australia's best long-term
interest to cut down trees and turn them into low-value pulp never got a
guernsey." >From the other side of the world it seems difficult to believe,
in factit seems almost criminal, that it is still possible to build a pulp
mill and feed it with native forest in a country like Australia. I know the
UK is not a good example - we chopped our forests down hundreds of years ago
for ships, houses and charcoal. But most wood pulp in Europe now comes from
managed forests in Scandinavia. Rosemary Royle, Wales, UK
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