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Re: Impressed!

Subject: Re: Impressed!
From: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
Date: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:23 pm ((PST))
No question that the Telinga SSM system was noticeably quieter than the DPA=
s. And the imaging of the SSMs was impressive, too.

The DPAs are probably good for those planning a long backcountry hike and w=
here the measured grams of weight one carries are crucial. Even with the XL=
R connectors two mics weigh around 60 grams. And with Dan's shoulder muff w=
ind protection solution, they're one of many good options.

Bernie


On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Dan Dugan <> wrote:

> Klas Strandberg, Bernie Krause, and I did an A/B test on Bernie's deck co=
mparing a Telinga SSM stereo array with DPA 4060s into a Sound Devices 788T=
 with Naiant phantom-to-PIP adaptors for the SSM. The 4060s were clipped to=
 the sides of the SSMs' windscreens. Level-matched, the SSMs were audibly q=
uieter. After (in post) equalizing the SSMs to flat-on-axis (they have a pr=
esence boost) their noise spectra diverged around 2KHz. The SSMs were 3dB q=
uieter at 4K and 6dB quieter above 8KHz.
>
> Disclosure: Klas manufactures Telinga mics, and I am a dealer.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Jez wrote:
>
>> btw. might be helpful (I know its a can of worms !) to list a few mics, =
of something approaching equal sound quality of the DPA's, that are quieter=
 in terms of self noise than 17db.
>>
>> my own favourite mic right now is the Sanken CUW-180 but that is also 17=
db, though i've not found the self noise to be an issue even recording empt=
y (very, very quiet) buildings for example.
>>
>> --- In  Dan Dugan <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would (carefully !) take issue with the comment about self noise of =
17db not being good enough for nature work as most of the mics that offer t=
ruly stunning recordings in the field have self noise of around this or eve=
n higher (such as the DPA4060's).
>>>
>>> In terms of fidelity I agree with you completely. It all depends on the=
 scene. In quiet forest or desert soundscapes 17dBA mic self-noise will be =
the noise floor of the recording. In these cases quieter mics will be bette=
r.
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> ------------------------------------
>
> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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