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Subject: 1. Re: iRig pre
From: "rock_scallop" rock_scallop
Date: Sat Dec 1, 2012 3:28 pm ((PST))
Hi Vicki, Marco, others
It may be worth a mention, in comparison tests I did this spring, between the 
AT3032 directly into a SD702 and the AT3032 into a PCM-M10 via an Art Phantom 
II phantom power supply, the PCM-M10 recordings were significantly noisier - 
presumably due to the inferior inputs of the PCM-M10. This suggests to me the 
benefits of using the lower self-noise AT3032 rather than the low-cost EM172 
are reduced substantially when used with "the smaller flash card recorders." 

John Hartog
rockscallop.org

--- In  vickipowys <> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco,
> 
> I listened to your sound clip.  It seems to show just how good the  
> EM172s really are.  The AT3032 is a top quality mic but the EM172s  
> easily match their quality for the robin recording.  It is typical  
> that the EM172s are brighter than the AT3032s, and the latter also  
> have stronger lower frequencies.  The iRig seems in this case only to  
> be a way of providing 48 V phantom power and connecting the AT3032 to  
> one of the smaller flash card recorders.
> 
> An interesting test, and thanks Marco!
> 
> Vicki
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/12/2012, at 7:18 AM,  wrote:
> 
> >
> >> I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra  
> >> 'presence' in
> >> the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain?
> >
> > Hi Max,
> > I think the "extra presence" is due to the fact that the AT3032 has  
> > the capsule facing towards "outside" the parabola, consequently  
> > captures more environmental noise than the two EM172 connected in  
> > parallel but with the capsule facing inward the dish. We must also  
> > consider the goodness of AT3032, surely higher in quality than that  
> > of EM172. However, the song of the Robin, in my opinion, is equal  
> > if not higher in the first part relating to EM172, although drier,  
> > less soft than the second part recorded with iRig Pre + AT3032. Are  
> > you in accord?
> > On the other hand, it is practically impossible to arrange an  
> > AT3032 with the capsule at the focus of the Telinga Universal and  
> > facing it inward the dish.
> > Theoretically, being omnidirectional microphones, the direction in  
> > which they are addressed (In or OUT) in the parabola should not  
> > have much importance, but in reality I think that some influence is  
> > heard, at least in the background.
> > ...but, at this point, it would be better to hear the father of  
> > Telinga... Klas!
> > Cheers
> >
> > Marco Pesente
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In  "Max" <maxcatterwell@>  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Marco!
> >> I can't believe I ordered mine a few days after you, and you still  
> >> haven't got yours!? You WILL find it much easier.
> >> I listened to your Robin songs with interest, and assume the extra  
> >> 'presence' in the second half is due to the iRig's extra gain? I'm  
> >> not familiar with the Roland R05; does it have sense settings like  
> >> my LS-10?
> >> I was fascinated to see that record insects underwater!  
> >> Extraordinary!
> >> Cheers
> >> Max
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In  m.pesente@ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Max!
> >>> unlike you, I'm always waiting for my lead adaptor from US!
> >>> So, for now I'm always experimenting with my complex system  
> >>> linking iRig Pre and Roland R05 or Olympus LS5 etc.
> >>> This is a link http://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/ 
> >>> robin-3phrasesem172-2caps-vs to an IRigPre+AT3032 Vs EM172's  
> >>> practical test.
> >>> See the note posted on Soundcloud for settings of the microphones  
> >>> in Telinga Universal.
> >>> We feel as soon as the cable will come to me!
> >>> Cheers.
> >>>
> >>> Marco Pesente from Italy
> >>>
>








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